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Post by Phoebe on May 8, 2013 16:06:24 GMT 11
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Post by Phoebe on May 8, 2013 16:26:29 GMT 11
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Post by Jim Hare on May 8, 2013 17:59:29 GMT 11
Fantastic news! Never liked the battery swap idea, seems invasive and unnecessary...
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Post by duncan on May 8, 2013 19:34:47 GMT 11
And interestingly the Leaf price in Norway (240,690kr) is a little over $40k AUD.
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Post by Feng on Sept 4, 2013 10:59:09 GMT 11
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Post by Brian on Sept 5, 2013 1:27:17 GMT 11
All EV car parks - I like that. Hopefully well equipped with charge points. I believe there are places where an option of swappable batteries have applications - cross country / inter- cities is one ( and evidently Elon Musk and Tesla think so, too ). I would rather spend 2 to 5 minutes on a battery swap, that be forced to wait for 30 minutes for a fast charge. Taxis are another obvious application. That cut-away, driveable LEAF is cool. Note the government encouragement / subsidies - significantly absent from any Australian party policies. I'm with you, Feng, if there can be an Australian Sex Party and a Wikileaks Party, why not an EV Party ?  |
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Post by Jim Hare on Sept 5, 2013 17:07:34 GMT 11
True Brian but one the wonderful things is we are getting away from the massive infrastructure of petrol stations. If EVs were in mass they would need EV stations where they could swap 4-8 cars at a time.
I think the solution is being able to go 500KMs on a charge and recharge in 10 minutes or less. Could be less than 5 years away. Would take much longer to get a massive infrastructure of battery stations in place.
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Post by Brian on Sept 7, 2013 0:46:56 GMT 11
A range of 500 kms and 10 minute recharge would certainly be a game changer.
I accept that powerful, cordless powertools such as we enjoy today were unthinkable 10 years ago. But we are happy with the ' battery swap ' principal they use in order to keep going. When the first battery runs down, snap in the second, and put the first on charge. I can see the same principle applicable to EVs.
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Post by Jim Hare on Sept 7, 2013 8:05:43 GMT 11
Absolutely, but we aren't talking about a battery the size of a soda can. The service infrastructure would be massive and most likely temporary.
I truly believe the only solution is home charging and supplementing with tons of fast chargers.
Completely understand the benefit of battery swap, just think it's completely impractical on a mass scale.
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Post by Brian on Sept 10, 2013 0:13:06 GMT 11
Ref. your 500 km range, Jim, Mitsubishi are claiming 300 km range for the CA-Miev shown in Geneva. So, yes, getting better  Whereas I had figured I would need to hire an FFB for longer, out-of-town trips, a recent trip in a Prius impressed me, such that I think maybe a hybrid for out-of-town could be the short term solution. |
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