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Post by jake on Jan 1, 2016 11:17:16 GMT 11
I am on tour in China and I am amazed by the number of electric bikes and cars on the road. Electric bikes are the norm. It is rare to see an ICE bike. There is also a Chinese made electric car called "Cherry'. Three were parked walking distance from the hotel.
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Post by Feng on Jan 1, 2016 11:33:28 GMT 11
They used to sell Chery here, I'm not sure if they still do. The Chery J1 came with cosmetic roof rails and a warning sticker! Attachments:
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Post by rusdy on Jan 6, 2016 17:23:39 GMT 11
I am on tour in China and I am amazed by the number of electric bikes and cars on the road. Electric bikes are the norm. It is rare to see an ICE bike. There is also a Chinese made electric car called "Cherry'. Three were parked walking distance from the hotel. Lots of people flog the Chinese for lots of the bad stuff, but this is the one they definitely get it right. Electric bicycle is the most sensible form of transport, since there are lazy bum out there (read: myself). Cheapest Commuting Challenge |
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Post by EVangelist on Jan 9, 2016 14:49:11 GMT 11
I am on tour in China and I am amazed by the number of electric bikes and cars on the road. Electric bikes are the norm. It is rare to see an ICE bike. There is also a Chinese made electric car called "Cherry'. Three were parked walking distance from the hotel. China is unfairly maligned when it comes to pollution. First, we seem to forget that a lot of China's industrial pollution really belongs to us - western countries which have outsourced manufacturing (and its associated pollution) to China. But China is also the world's largest investor in renewable energy and makes the majority of the world's solar panels. The first thing I saw when I first flew into Shanghai a few years ago was a big wind farm along the coast. And despite having "plans" for lots more coal mines and nuclear power plants, it is highly likely that few of them will actually proceed as the population becomes increasingly critical of pollution levels and the ever improving economics for renewables starts wiping out competing energy sources. |
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Post by hieronymous on Jan 9, 2016 20:13:44 GMT 11
China's pollution problem is of its own making - the Communist Party's ambition to become a world superpower has always been at the expense of the health and welfare of its citizens. That pollution would not have occurred in Western democracies with strong and enforceable emissions controls.
But indirectly it is also due to the amoral behaviour of Western politicians and business interests who can't see beyond their free trade mantra, and who are happy to turn a blind eye to the health consequences for foreign workers as long as their own profits keep on increasing.
China is only doing something about pollution now because it is getting out of control and making its cities dangerous for all to live in, including the elite. China remains totally under the control of the iron fist in the iron glove; its citizens are just pawns to Communist Party global politics.
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Post by duncan on Jan 11, 2016 10:33:48 GMT 11
China's pollution problem is of its own making - the Communist Party's ambition to become a world superpower has always been at the expense of the health and welfare of its citizens. That pollution would not have occurred in Western democracies with strong and enforceable emissions controls. But indirectly it is also due to the amoral behaviour of Western politicians and business interests who can't see beyond their free trade mantra, and who are happy to turn a blind eye to the health consequences for foreign workers as long as their own profits keep on increasing. China is only doing something about pollution now because it is getting out of control and making its cities dangerous for all to live in, including the elite. China remains totally under the control of the iron fist in the iron glove; its citizens are just pawns to Communist Party global politics. Sorry but I can't agree with that at all. We (OZ) are the largest polluters in the world per person, China is miles behind us per person. I don't think we can sit back here all nice and comfy and point the finger at other countries who want similar standards of living. |
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Post by hieronymous on Jan 11, 2016 12:00:14 GMT 11
I didn't draw any comparisons.
China has had years of substantial (8-9%) GDP growth, but its military spending has been at double-digit levels for 2 decades and is 2nd only to that of the USA. Becoming a military super-power that is too strong to challenge remains its primary ambition, ahead of the health and welfare of its citizens. Ironically, the pollution that has been a Chinese by-product of manufacturing for Western businesses, recognises no geographic borders, and is a significant contributor to global warming - we all end up paying a higher price anyway.
Those that sup with the devil should use a long spoon.
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