i3 has j1772 under the hood and Model S has chademo in Japan

[markrmarkr]

As the title says there are some strange things happening in Japan, and as we have a lot of similarities to Japan, I'd guess we will get the same setups.

transportevolved.com/2013/11/15/in-japan-bmw-i3-gets-chademo-slow-charge-connector-hidden-under-hood/

[markrmarkr]

At the risk of looking a bit silly - replying to myself - check out this.

www.mennekes.de/uploads/media/Ladesteckvorrichtungen_Typ_2_f%C3%BCr_AC_u_DC_Ladung.jpg_02.jpg

It's the mennekes type 2 standard. Note the DC (500V, 140A) capability without any additional pins

[Phoebe]

Gosh!  All too complicated for me    Glad I don't need any of it

[leafboi]

When I first say this a few months ago I was a little weirded out too.

But let's think for a moment about Japans urban areas.

Not everyone has their own off street parking. Communal lots and parking tower garages are very common.

So lots of Japanese only use Chademo for their charging needs.

So while initially it seems impractical to us, for them it is perfectly normal.

My Japanese 'in-laws' live in a suburban area but only have space for one small kei car but their household is a three car house. The other two are parked in a communal lot a few hundred meters from the house.

So while they could charge an imiev at home the likes of the LEAF and i3 simply would be to wide for their home parking space. Also both neighbors on either side have no parking space.

[markrmarkr]

I'm not so much concerned with the weirdness aspect (I agree it is a bit strange), as the question "will they do the same thing here?". I actually think it would be a good thing if they do, as this would mean we will avoid having a standards war in Australia. If all the new entrants to the Australian market use J1772 and/or Chademo, I think that would be a very good thing.

The last thing we want is beta -vs- VHS.

Mark

[gabzimiev]

I'm sure the only reason they are doing it in japan is the large network of like 3000 CHAdeMO charging stations.

No idea on what will happen here same reason doesn't exist. the spark EV from Holden we have the petrol version here is the first in the US to have CCS insideevs.com/chevrolet-presents-dc-fast-charging-for-2014-spark-ev-wvideo/ but that car will never make it to Australia it's not even available in the USA in more than 3 states.

the bmw i3 website bmw.com.au/com/en/newvehicles/i/i3/2013/showroom/charging.html for australia is saying that it'll be type 2 mennekes for it to have 7.4kW charging and only pull 16amps

[lesmando24]

I visited the brisbane BMW dealer today in fortitude valley to play in the i3 they have on display (no test drives). It is very nice. It had a mennekes CCS fast charge port. But that could be just a British model?

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i3 will be on display in Perth Weds 12 feb - possibly Monday 17 Feb.
check Facebook page.
www.facebook.com/BMWPerth

[markrmarkr]

Jan 17, 2014 16:21:33 GMT 11 gabzimiev said:

I'm sure the only reason they are doing it in japan is the large network of like 3000 CHAdeMO charging stations.
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the bmw i3 website bmw.com.au/com/en/newvehicles/i/i3/2013/showroom/charging.html for australia is saying that it'll be type 2 mennekes for it to have 7.4kW charging and only pull 16amps

True we don't compare that well to the Japanese, with only a few Chademos on the ground but there are no mennekes here at all that I know of. Though there must be something for the road-show, (maybe a portable EVSE equivalent).

Not sure how they get 7.4KW with 16Amps. Sort of implies something exotic (expensive), like 3-phase doesn't it.

This whole thing has the same feel I used to get back in the 90's when someone came up with a great new program, and MS would squash it with mountains of FUD even though their equivalent product was years out. MS was able to make this work because they had such a dominant position. I don't know if BMW can though.

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bmw i3 is in Perth for a few days.

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