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Post by Phoebe on Jul 28, 2013 16:41:58 GMT 11
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Post by David on Jul 28, 2013 19:56:28 GMT 11
Is it my imagination, or does it sound a bit like a Leaf made by BMW
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Post by Feng on Jul 30, 2013 16:40:26 GMT 11
If people complain about the LEAF's styling I wonder what they will have to say about the i3? There's a decent gallery here: www.autoblog.com/2013/07/29/2014-bmw-i3-official-worldwide-launch/. I'm betting people will buy it because it's a BMW, not because it's a better car compared to the LEAF. If it means getting more EVs on the road and more public chargers then I'm all for it! |
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Post by Brian on Aug 3, 2013 1:17:24 GMT 11
In my view, the i3 is one of the ugliest cars ( externally ) that I have ever seen. However, I will grant that internally, being electric, like the LEAF, it may have a heart of gold.
Given the three dimensional flexibility of design offered by carbon fibre over pressed steel, the result is disappointing. For example, the ' stuck on ', totally non-functional, iconic Beemer grill is a farce.
The way their Execs were carrying on, you would think they were the first to market an electric car, conveniently overlooking the LEAF, the iMiev and Tesla. But, if it gets some ' trendies / luvvies ' driving electric, then that will be a good thing.
On a different note, it was good to see Dick Smith driving a LEAF in ' Ten dollars a litre '.
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Post by David on Aug 3, 2013 20:48:09 GMT 11
I watched 'ten bucks a litre'. Was skeptical about what Dick would produce. I thought is was quite good actually. The one thing that seems to be forgotten however whenever they talk about alternative energy plants (eg solar thermal) is that once built, the fuel is free forever, not to mention obviating the need for open cut mines, Fraccing etc...
Totally unrelated, having never seen another leaf on the road since I got mine, I saw two in two days and one of them I am sure was Feng, near Rockdale station, the other was in Waverly and the same colour as mine (burgundy)
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Post by Feng on Aug 3, 2013 22:02:55 GMT 11
It was my dad and he saw you too! It'll be a while before the novelty of seeing another LEAF wears out!
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Post by duncan on Aug 4, 2013 8:47:12 GMT 11
OMG first spotting in the wild!
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Post by Brian on Aug 5, 2013 17:52:34 GMT 11
Begining to see more in the ( Wild ) West, now.
Parked alongside " crisps " white LEAF some days ago.
Also sighted Edith Cowan University's silver LEAF on charge at Joondalup campus in the undercover car park.
Agreed, David, the other benefits of renewables seem to be conveniently forgotten.
Solar PV power is now competitive with grid power. Yes, higher set-up cost, but zero energy input cost over its life. Just as the LEAF may cost more than a similar ICE, not going near petrol stations and lower maintenance soon offsets that - and The Planet is way ahead.
I have heard that wind power is now cheaper than grid
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marty
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I like the idea of free transport....
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Post by marty on Aug 8, 2013 19:53:03 GMT 11
I watched 'ten bucks a litre'. Was skeptical about what Dick would produce. I thought is was quite good actually. The one thing that seems to be forgotten however whenever they talk about alternative energy plants (eg solar thermal) is that once built, the fuel is free forever, not to mention obviating the need for open cut mines, Fraccing etc... Totally unrelated, having never seen another leaf on the road since I got mine, I saw two in two days and one of them I am sure was Feng, near Rockdale station, the other was in Waverly and the same colour as mine (burgundy) Hi there, what was all that talk about going nuclear about on that program? Are these people alright or what? I was close to Chernobyl in the 80ies and Fukuschima shouldn't have slipped anyone's memory, yet? How can they still say the technology is safe? And they still don't know what to do with the waste that's lethal for an easy 300.000 years?   |
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Post by Brian on Aug 13, 2013 0:16:08 GMT 11
Agreed, Marty. The implication was that continued coal use was inevitable ( if we want a tanked planet, in my view ), and that nuclear had no downside ( much ). Both are symptoms of the flawed BAU ( Business As Usual ) model, and, in my view, detracted from a programme that made some good points, and highlighted some great technologies - like the LEAF  |
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Post by duncan on Aug 13, 2013 0:25:53 GMT 11
and on a related note, I saw today that this year's energy demand was actually lower than last year. Sorry I can't find the exact reference but it's great news if true because it really starts to hurt that BAU model
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Post by Brian on Aug 13, 2013 2:48:34 GMT 11
Good to hear.
I knew stats were showing that people was driving less distances.
I also knew that electricity consumption per head was dropping - directly due to electricity price rises.
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Post by Feng on Oct 1, 2013 22:16:36 GMT 11
www.carsales.com.au/news/2013/bmw/bmw-i3-makes-local-debut-39170. Priced at over $60k and they still got around 1000 enquiries including some deposits (you think they would inflate those figures to boost interest?). It's due to go on sale in July next year, the upgraded LEAF should be on sale by then and hopefully give it a run for its money.
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