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Post by chumley on May 12, 2020 14:46:12 GMT 11
I had the SD card removed ( stolen ) from my 2012 leaf while it was in transit form Sydney to Perth. Nissan want $576.19 to replace it !
Does anyone have any cheaper suggestions ? I don't need the maps just everything else that is controlled by the SD card.
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Post by tomkauf on May 12, 2020 18:02:17 GMT 11
 Sorry to hear that. Unfortunately the SD Card is known to be a big problem if it goes missing - our importer warned me of that. It even needs to be paired to your vehicle, you can't even get another SD Card from eg. an identical model year wrecked Leaf. Because from what I have read, it uses a copy-protected card using the Secure part of Secure Digital (SD). Did Nissan give you a Part# for the SD Card? You may be able to buy a genuine Nissan Card from a 3rd-party supplier like Amayama.com (Japan or Australian Stock), or Partsouq.com (massive middle-east stock, often with 5-day shipping as standard). I have used both, and they're MUCH cheaper than the Stealership, for genuine eg. Nissan Parts. But I don't know if the Card then needs the dealership the do any programming.... A quick google search brought up lots of other overseas forum posts with the same issue, including this NZ Company that offers SD Card programming. But it says that the Head-unit needs to be in Auckland, if I understand the comments under their Youtube Video correctly. In other words shipping it there. But that should still be a lot cheaper than buying a genuine one. www.youtube.com/watch?v=s-y1W2XFVb0www.hybrids.co.nz/programming-nissan-ev-battery-in-leaf-or-e-nv200/
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Post by EVangelist on May 15, 2020 23:32:01 GMT 11
I had the SD card removed ( stolen ) from my 2012 leaf while it was in transit form Sydney to Perth. Nissan want $576.19 to replace it !
Does anyone have any cheaper suggestions ? I don't need the maps just everything else that is controlled by the SD card. Stolen SD card? Whoever took it must seriously be in the know, it’s not exactly obvious where to find it. And I wouldn’t think that it’s a hot item for the black market that can be quickly converted to cash! As tomkauf said, this SD card is encrypted and can’t be replaced with a card from another car. However, even encrypted cards can be bit copied, and I’ve been meaning to bit-copy mine (assuming the disk format is something a standard OS can read - which is not guaranteed) so that I have a backup should it ever go missing, or fail. That doesn’t help after it’s gone missing though, sorry. |
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Post by EVangelist on May 16, 2020 9:37:38 GMT 11
Stolen SD card? Whoever took it must seriously be in the know, it’s not exactly obvious where to find it. And I wouldn’t think that it’s a hot item for the black market that can be quickly converted to cash! As tomkauf said, this SD card is encrypted and can’t be replaced with a card from another car. However, even encrypted cards can be bit copied, and I’ve been meaning to bit-copy mine (assuming the disk format is something a standard OS can read - which is not guaranteed) so that I have a backup should it ever go missing, or fail. That doesn’t help after it’s gone missing though, sorry. Having done a bit of research, it seems that even bit-copying the SD card will not work, because I didn’t realise that SD cards have a unique “Card ID” (CID) that is embedded in the card in a segment of nonvolatile memory that is not part of the user storage space. So the car will know if a physically different SD is used, even if the accessible storage is a bit-for-bit copy. So I suspect what happens is the head-end in the car extracts the CID and uses it as the decryption key for the card contents. A different card means that CID will be wrong for the contents, decryption will fail, and it simply won’t work. Forensic type data specialists have special tools that can read CIDs and I believe it’s possible to get SD cards where the CID can be programmed/faked, but that’s getting into territory where it’d be no cheaper cloning a card than it would be just bending over for Nissan. This is another reason why Tesla is such a breath of fresh air. None of this type of rubbish to extract cash from owners. Nissan could have designed it so that users could back up their cards, or even freely copy them and have it work in any other LEAF, but they didn’t. And that must have been a deliberate decision to do it that way. In contrast, Tesla updates its maps and car software over the air for free. I even had to get a replacement pair of key cards when my wife lost one of them. Cost? $38 - for two keys! Try to get a replacement key for any other car and it’s $500 territory, per key. |
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Sorry to hear that. Unfortunately the SD Card is known to be a big problem if it goes missing - our importer warned me of that. It even needs to be paired to your vehicle, you can't even get another SD Card from eg. an identical model year wrecked Leaf. Because from what I have read, it uses a copy-protected card using the Secure part of Secure Digital (SD).