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Post by EVangelist on Apr 13, 2016 23:32:49 GMT 11
I want to put a proposal to my local council that they should implement a policy that mandates that all strata (multi-unit dwelling) developments must include provisioning all onsite parking spaces with electrical cabling to enable the installation of electric car chargers.
Note this would not be installing the chargers themselves, but running conduit and, say, 40A electrical cable from the electrical switchboard to each car space, terminating at an empty wall block. It should be configured to allow individual metering.
This would not be a large additional cost at build time, but greatly simplify the later installation of charging equipment for any unit owner, stimulating the uptake of electric cars. Retrofitting a solution post-completion would not only be a lot more expensive (or maybe even impossible), but require the consent of a majority of lot owners who predictably would veto it unless we are in an EV nirvana where a majority own EVs (but if they could never charge them, they wouldn't be in the majority - catch 22).
This is particularly important in Sydney, where I think last year, new apartments/terraces exceeded the number of new houses built for the first time. It is a big barrier to the takeup of electric cars if people can't charge them at home.
Does anyone know of any precedents, domestically or internationally, for this kind of policy? It would help me make the case.
Any other factors that should be considered in such a policy proposal?
Thanks.
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Post by lesmando24 on Apr 14, 2016 6:16:25 GMT 11
Local councils in QLD are overridden by the state legislation, Logan city council staff tried the same thing, but it didn't go through as the lawyers pointed out it would be ineffective. Not sure how it is in NSW.
Les
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Post by jacky on Apr 14, 2016 6:28:19 GMT 11
I want to put a proposal to my local council that they should implement a policy that mandates that all strata (multi-unit dwelling) developments must include provisioning all onsite parking spaces with electrical cabling to enable the installation of electric car chargers. Note this would not be installing the chargers themselves, but running conduit and, say, 40A electrical cable from the electrical switchboard to each car space, terminating at an empty wall block. It should be configured to allow individual metering. This would not be a large additional cost at build time, but greatly simplify the later installation of charging equipment for any unit owner, stimulating the uptake of electric cars. Retrofitting a solution post-completion would not only be a lot more expensive (or maybe even impossible), but require the consent of a majority of lot owners who predictably would veto it unless we are in an EV nirvana where a majority own EVs (but if they could never charge them, they wouldn't be in the majority - catch 22). This is particularly important in Sydney, where I think last year, new apartments/terraces exceeded the number of new houses built for the first time. It is a big barrier to the takeup of electric cars if people can't charge them at home. Does anyone know of any precedents, domestically or internationally, for this kind of policy? It would help me make the case. Any other factors that should be considered in such a policy proposal? Thanks. Hong Kong is experiencing this issue: Electric cars on the rise in Hong Kong but building management are failing to plug a home-charging gapHK government didn't have regulations on mandating wiring on new developments instead their environmental protection department put guidelines on it. Technical Guidelines for Electric Vehicle (EV) Charging-enabling for Car Parks of New Building DevelopmentsPromotion of Electric Vehicles in Hong Kong - Environmental Protection DepartmentBTW, they have 15 CHAdeMO charging stations in such a small city (just a point on the map). In Australia, we have only 20 and 10 of them are in the WA electric highway. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 14, 2016 8:59:33 GMT 11
21 in Australia
1 at Uwa
Perhaps need to look to nz
25 to be
On plugshare Hong Kong only has 5 fast chargers
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Post by EVangelist on Apr 15, 2016 0:01:00 GMT 11
OK so this seems more complicated than it first appeared... might need to go to State Govt rather than local council! Is anyone here an AEVA member, and have they done any lobbying along these lines?
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Post by gabzimiev on Apr 16, 2016 11:49:07 GMT 11
which council are you in ? we have some meetings with sydney councils in may.
NSW AEVA branch doesn't do a lot of lobbying it's not it's focus. your best to contact ACT Electric vehicle council for advise on lobbying.
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Post by EVangelist on Apr 18, 2016 8:49:34 GMT 11
which council are you in ? we have some meetings with sydney councils in may. NSW AEVA branch doesn't do a lot of lobbying it's not it's focus. your best to contact ACT Electric vehicle council for advise on lobbying. I'm in Leichhardt. I've done some lobbying on other issues previously so it's not the process, I just didn't want to reinvent the wheel if AEVA had already done something similar in the past. Better to be coordinated/aligned with stuff like this. You can PM me with details if I can help. |
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Post by caroline on Apr 21, 2016 8:35:15 GMT 11
I want to put a proposal to my local council that they should implement a policy that mandates that all strata (multi-unit dwelling) developments must include provisioning all onsite parking spaces with electrical cabling to enable the installation of electric car chargers. Note this would not be installing the chargers themselves, but running conduit and, say, 40A electrical cable from the electrical switchboard to each car space, terminating at an empty wall block. It should be configured to allow individual metering. This would not be a large additional cost at build time, but greatly simplify the later installation of charging equipment for any unit owner, stimulating the uptake of electric cars. Retrofitting a solution post-completion would not only be a lot more expensive (or maybe even impossible), but require the consent of a majority of lot owners who predictably would veto it unless we are in an EV nirvana where a majority own EVs (but if they could never charge them, they wouldn't be in the majority - catch 22). This is particularly important in Sydney, where I think last year, new apartments/terraces exceeded the number of new houses built for the first time. It is a big barrier to the takeup of electric cars if people can't charge them at home. Does anyone know of any precedents, domestically or internationally, for this kind of policy? It would help me make the case. Any other factors that should be considered in such a policy proposal? Thanks. Don't know of any precedent but I would think this could be something that can be accommodated within a local planning scheme's use codes. Which local council? Most SEQ councils have their new planning schemes in place... Ours (Gold Coast) has a number of new sustainability provisions in the there including a communal car for all high rises over 26 units |
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Post by caroline on Apr 21, 2016 8:43:16 GMT 11
which council are you in ? we have some meetings with sydney councils in may. NSW AEVA branch doesn't do a lot of lobbying it's not it's focus. your best to contact ACT Electric vehicle council for advise on lobbying. I'm in Leichhardt. I've done some lobbying on other issues previously so it's not the process, I just didn't want to reinvent the wheel if AEVA had already done something similar in the past. Better to be coordinated/aligned with stuff like this. You can PM me with details if I can help. Ok Leichardt so Ipswich City Council? I think they may be one of the last in SEQ not to have a new planning scheme yet so good time to lobby! |
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Post by Phoebe on Apr 21, 2016 9:16:17 GMT 11
I think he means Leichhardt Council in NSW not Leichhardt in Ipswich Council in Q.
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Post by caroline on Apr 21, 2016 10:14:55 GMT 11
I think he means Leichhardt Council in NSW not Leichhardt in Ipswich Council in Q. Ahh ok thanks!  Not familiar with NSW planning law sorry |
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Post by EVangelist on Apr 21, 2016 15:00:29 GMT 11
I think he means Leichhardt Council in NSW not Leichhardt in Ipswich Council in Q. Ahh ok thanks! Not familiar with NSW planning law sorry Yep... I was not being sufficiently geographically precise. Leichhardt Council in NSW. |
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Not familiar with NSW planning law sorry