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Post by gabzimiev on Mar 14, 2015 22:40:40 GMT 11
Nice. Wish there were more of them around. I wonder if the dealer will ever feel like they're being taken advantage of and restrict usage? I doubt it... i3 is not Chademo. It would be a waste to have paid for a dual combo/chademo unit not to let it be used as much as possible. He probably paid for it because it's the only CCS unit that is approved for Australia. But he is the only dealer with one so I assume they (the dealership) paid the $30k for it not BMW.
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Post by empowerrepower on Mar 14, 2015 23:29:22 GMT 11
I tried out the Veefil charger at the BMW dealer in Brisbane. Only had 2 bars left which wasn't going to get me home. After plugging in, the Veefil indicated my "battery %" at 24%. My son and I had a quick look at the lovely i3 in the showroom...nice but with only 2 seat belts in the back it is as useless to me as the Volt. The charger shutdown after 22 minutes when the battery indicator hit 80% and the unit had delivered 8.4 Kwh, which is an average charging power of 23KW. I plugged it back in and it started charging again. We had some ice cream and beet juice at the coffee shop across from the Mercedes dealer...nice place to wait out the fast charge. We returned 25 minutes later to find the battery 98% and the unit shutdown a seconds later. Checked the GOM and it showed a full charge (and 2 regen circles available) which seems consistent with the 98% indicated on the Veefil. 47 minutes from 2 bars to full charge (total of 11.3 Kwh) is pretty good. Will have to use this charger for a Sunshine coast trip in the coming months. Hi Mike, We used that Veefil a week ago when we picked up our Leaf, so very interesting to hear about you managing 98%. I know someone from Sunshine Coast Council, and hear that Veefil is looking at Sippy Downs as a possible fast charger location - would be great for EV daytrips from Bris.
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Post by stewartm on Mar 16, 2015 23:54:04 GMT 11
There is an adapter cable for Mennekes to J1772, I bought one for my French Leaf as there are a lot of Renault chargers over there for the Zoe. Never used it tho because CHADEMO chargers are everywhere as it turned out. 4 in each direction about 25 km from home.
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Post by dholms on Apr 5, 2015 10:03:33 GMT 11
There is an adapter cable for Mennekes to J1772, I bought one for my French Leaf as there are a lot of Renault chargers over there for the Zoe. Never used it tho because CHADEMO chargers are everywhere as it turned out. 4 in each direction about 25 km from home. Do you have a link to this adaptor Stewart?
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Post by stewartm on Apr 5, 2015 10:18:10 GMT 11
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Post by stewartm on Apr 5, 2015 10:29:48 GMT 11
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Post by quaternary on Apr 7, 2015 21:17:08 GMT 11
It's interesting to see that a public charging AC station with a Mennekes (type 2) connector can be used to charge a car with either a J1772 inlet (like our Leafs) or a Mennekes inlet - all one needs for a Leaf is an adaptor cable like the one you reference here. So this makes me wonder, does there exist an analogous adapter cable, so that a car with a type 1, Combo fast charger inlet (like the BWM i3s that are supplied to Australia and NZ) can be used with a DC fast charger with CCS type 2 connector?
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Post by lesmando24 on Apr 9, 2015 12:43:29 GMT 11
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Post by dholms on Apr 13, 2015 18:46:10 GMT 11
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Post by stewartm on Apr 18, 2015 20:45:11 GMT 11
I'm sorry I don't know the Tesla unit.
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Post by lesmando24 on Apr 18, 2015 23:09:32 GMT 11
There is no type 1 CCS to type 2 CCS convertor I know of. The stations have fixed cables due to the DC. There is a cable to allow an AC EVSE with a mennekes (type 2) socket to be used by a J1772 (type 1) car.
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Post by dholms on May 2, 2015 11:03:19 GMT 11
Interesting read from my friend at BMW regarding the fast charge ability.. I apologise in advance for the long winded explanation below, but I thought it would be interesting at least for you to understand a little further how the cars behave. Your Veefil charger is currently set to run at 50% capacity - 25kW. The charging time is unfortunately not an exact science. The biggest influencers are temperature of the batteries and how empty they are when you start charging. The fuller the batteries get, the slower they can accept charge. Under normal circumstances (50kW) you would expect an i3 to DC charge in about 20-25 minutes and a Nissan Leaf perhaps 25-30 minutes, if you went from <10% capacity to 80% capacity. Going from 80% up to 100% will take roughly another 25 minutes because the batteries are close to full. Another way to think about it is that 50kW can give you about 50km driving range in 10 minutes of charging, so the Veefil you have at the moment will add about 25km in 10 minutes. The graph below is actual data from your Veefil. Looking at the BLUE line, you can see that it takes about 40 minutes to go from 34% to 80% battery. Somebody then presses 'start' again and it takes another hour to go from 80% to 100%. The RED line is how much power the charger is drawing. As you can see, it drops off when the batteries get close to full. For comparison, the ChargePoint charger in the car park has a maximum output power of around 7,500 watts. Attachments:
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Post by Deleted on May 2, 2015 14:20:44 GMT 11
In Perth the Veefil has been modified to charge to 100% Imiev still stops at 80% Bmw Takes 30 mins to 80% Then 1 hour for slower 20% charge
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