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Post by pharmadave on Mar 10, 2017 12:53:47 GMT 11
It seems Nissan Has tweeted that the new Nissan Leaf will be unveiled this year in September.
Anticipating some bold advancements especially in battery technology and range and hoping Australia won't get short changed...
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Post by Phoebe on Mar 10, 2017 13:51:12 GMT 11
Probably be a while before it gets here.
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leafmedo
EV Enthusiast
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LEAF OWNER?: No
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Post by leafmedo on Mar 10, 2017 22:15:41 GMT 11
I'm not really interested unless Nissan has a fast charging network here. One Leaf is enough for me to go around town.
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Post by pharmadave on Mar 12, 2017 23:34:18 GMT 11
It really feels like the car companies just want to sell electric cars in Australia without a consideration of the charging network. Whilst other car companies refuse to sell their EVs here citing lack of charging infrastructure and poor track record of sales of EVs such as the Leaf as a reason not to bring them.
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Post by duncan on Mar 16, 2017 20:24:02 GMT 11
We've owned the leaf for 4 years and would have charged outside home less than 20 times (and a few of those just because we could). I don't think charging network is a real issue stopping uptake (although I agree potential buyers generally wouldn't understand/believe that until they have been owners)
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Post by EVangelist on Mar 17, 2017 17:04:50 GMT 11
We've owned the leaf for 4 years and would have charged outside home less than 20 times (and a few of those just because we could). I don't think charging network is a real issue stopping uptake (although I agree potential buyers generally wouldn't understand/believe that until they have been owners) If your BEV is your city runabout I agree. We've only charged away from home twice in over 2 years (excluding using my employer's charger, which I used just because it was there not because I needed it). However for a BEV that is your primary car the considerations are very different and a charging network is critical to enable that car to replicate all the use cases of an ICE. That's why I signed up for Tesla Model 3, which will replace our primary car. I have confidence the Tesla charging network will make it possible for me to go completely ICE-free.
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Post by pharmadave on Mar 29, 2017 17:01:41 GMT 11
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Post by pharmadave on Mar 30, 2017 22:34:04 GMT 11
Interesting piece done by Fully Charged for the prototype Autopilot from Nissan. The interior of this prototype Leaf might point toward what the next gen Leaf might be like inside? www.youtube.com/watch?v=cfRqNAhAe6c
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Post by pharmadave on May 19, 2017 11:16:06 GMT 11
Nissan Australia just Tweeted:
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Post by Feng on May 19, 2017 11:26:13 GMT 11
I look forward to seeing a new wave of owners on this forum.
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Post by pharmadave on May 19, 2017 11:31:51 GMT 11
I look forward to seeing a new wave of owners on this forum. Yeah, I am also. In the mean time, I will try and be a bit more active with postings and use of multimedia e.g. Youtube/Video reviews and DIY tips and tricks. I used to be (still am) quite the gearhead before the kids came along and really enjoyed getting my hands dirty (mighty car mods style). Driving an EV just made sense to me and the first time I drove the LEAF, it just clicked and haven't looked back since. I do encourage other members to be more active on the forum and would be great to have more catch ups in person.
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Post by Phoebe on May 19, 2017 13:11:17 GMT 11
This forum was vibrant in the beginning when we were all very excited about EV's in general and the LEAF in particular, which is why I have more than 1,000 posts. EV's have not taken off in Australia as we hoped and us original owners have got a bit used to our LEAF after nearly 5 years. Let's hope the 2018 LEAF brings more people in but I doubt it will bring the excitement the 2012 LEAF brought when Jim won a competition to provide a movie on why he wanted a LEAF and was, as a result the first person in Australia to take delivery. We live in hope
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Post by Feng on May 19, 2017 13:46:21 GMT 11
I wonder if Nissan is going to do anything for existing owners so they can reassure prospective owners of the next model? Even announcing a price for a replacement pack would go a long way.
I'd be disappointed if Nissan forgets about us. We were early adopters, we shouldn't be abandoned just because the next shiny thing is out.
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Post by EVangelist on May 23, 2017 0:01:49 GMT 11
Tesla Model 3 should arrive on our shores about 1 year from now (production starts in the US in about 8 weeks). Which might mean the new Leaf arrives here at about the same time! Won't that be interesting...
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Post by Jim Hare on May 24, 2017 13:17:09 GMT 11
I wonder if Nissan is going to do anything for existing owners so they can reassure prospective owners of the next model? Even announcing a price for a replacement pack would go a long way. I'd be disappointed if Nissan forgets about us. We were early adopters, we shouldn't be abandoned just because the next shiny thing is out. I spoke to Dean last week, who has basically cut the LEAF loose. Hopefully someone will pick up the reins and give it the push it deserves! This forum has been amazing and would love to see it get new lease on life!
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Post by rusdy on May 24, 2017 16:21:37 GMT 11
... we shouldn't be abandoned just because the next shiny thing is out. I'm polishing my Leaf as much as I can. Maybe, keeping it super shiny make it less likely to be abandoned
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Post by chuq on May 24, 2017 18:20:19 GMT 11
I wonder if Nissan is going to do anything for existing owners so they can reassure prospective owners of the next model? Even announcing a price for a replacement pack would go a long way. I'd be disappointed if Nissan forgets about us. We were early adopters, we shouldn't be abandoned just because the next shiny thing is out. Apart from warranty issues, I don't think Nissan are likely to do anything like this. If we are able to get a new pack, then we won't buy a new car (Leaf or otherwise). But if we aren't, we may sell our old Leaf and buy a new one (or a Model 3, or whatever else appears here). It will be good to see more EVs on the second hand market - the price may encourage some people who wouldn't have otherwise, and there are still many people for whom even a 50km range vehicle is functional enough to be useful. It also means there is one more EV on the road than there was before! Having said that, it is purely speculation on my part. Whether the 2018 Leaf battery is the same form factor or not will tell us a lot. The Zoe went from 22kWh to 41kWh with the same physical battery. The i3 went from 22kWh to 33kWh, again, the same battery dimensions.
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Post by 4wardthinking on May 26, 2017 10:49:10 GMT 11
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Post by Phoebe on May 26, 2017 10:59:25 GMT 11
Good! Looking forward to more info.
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Post by pharmadave on May 26, 2017 10:59:50 GMT 11
I also read reports of Nissan going down the Tesla path of offering different battery capacities to target different price brackets in the market. So maybe 40kw (comparable to Renault ZOE) and 60kw (comparable to Chevy Bolt)?
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Post by pharmadave on Jun 1, 2017 11:46:02 GMT 11
According to this guy's youtube video who claims to have an inside source at Nissan Japan, the Japanese edition of the new LEAF will have a 40kw battery. www.youtube.com/watch?v=3yORyIVxknU&t=490sHopefully the overseas models will have the option of a larger battery to take on the likes of the Bolt and Model 3.
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Post by pharmadave on Jun 12, 2017 21:00:12 GMT 11
Unconfirmed reports from Japan that the next Leaf will have 40KWh battery. Will have around 330kms range NEDC, which is very much an overly optimistic estimation, most likely around 160 miles EPA range (which is a lot closer to real world range). If this is confirmed at the September launch, then Telsa's model 3 has won hands down, it's even lost out to the Chevy Bolt which is not even available in many markets.
Tesla has the range, autonomous capable tech, high speed charging network. (none of which matters right now for the short punt around town, but due to the relatively slow battery degradation of Tesla's 18650/2170 cells, it's a car that I am happy to keep well into the future when all of these things will matter)
Our family is in the market to replace our ICE car with an EV and we will unfortunately cross the next Leaf off our list if it indeed is equiped with a 40Kwh battery and no active thermal management.
We will resume our place in line for the Model 3 if that is the case.
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Post by jacky on Jun 13, 2017 18:55:19 GMT 11
Unconfirmed reports from Japan that the next Leaf will have 40KWh battery. Will have around 330kms range NEDC, which is very much an overly optimistic estimation, most likely around 160 miles EPA range (which is a lot closer to real world range). If this is confirmed at the September launch, then Telsa's model 3 has won hands down, it's even lost out to the Chevy Bolt which is not even available in many markets. Tesla has the range, autonomous capable tech, high speed charging network. (none of which matters right now for the short punt around town, but due to the relatively slow battery degradation of Tesla's 18650/2170 cells, it's a car that I am happy to keep well into the future when all of these things will matter) Our family is in the market to replace our ICE car with an EV and we will unfortunately cross the next Leaf off our list if it indeed is equiped with a 40Kwh battery and no active thermal management. We will resume our place in line for the Model 3 if that is the case. To replace an ICE in Australia, the charging infrastructure is more important than the battery size. A Tesla will be the one to replace your ICE as it has the best charging in terms of fast and destination charging. I am waiting for my model 3 and hope that dual motor and bigger battery options will be available by the time I can configure it.
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Post by EVangelist on Jun 14, 2017 10:57:52 GMT 11
I am waiting for my model 3 and hope that dual motor and bigger battery options will be available by the time I can configure it. Elon Musk indicated last month that Model 3 would not be released in RHD markets until mid next year (i.e. around a year away from today) so while at one level it's a bit frustrating and "the wait" goes on, it also means (a) any bugs or issues will have been well and truly ironed out by then and (b) I would expect that ALL options such as AWD, accessory hitch, larger battery etc will be available for all buyers. So the early release of a basic, limited options Model 3 next month in the USA actually helps us for once!
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Post by pharmadave on Jun 14, 2017 16:53:26 GMT 11
I hope they don't rush the Model 3 RHD homologation process and limit the RHD options at launch. Also hope the options aren't super expensive. July will be a very interesting month for EV and especially Tesla.
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Post by jake on Jun 17, 2017 12:38:13 GMT 11
I think for me the deciding factor will be price. The model 3 is looking to be a bit pricey. A 40kw battery would be fine for me but I'm hoping for a 60kw in the new Leaf. I want to see what the new Leaf will cost.
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Post by jacky on Jun 18, 2017 11:52:17 GMT 11
I think the deciding factor for leaf is the level of support and commitment to the car and it's owner. If they do what they are doing to us, there will be only very poor sales.
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Post by EVangelist on Jun 18, 2017 12:21:44 GMT 11
I think for me the deciding factor will be price. The model 3 is looking to be a bit pricey. A 40kw battery would be fine for me but I'm hoping for a 60kw in the new Leaf. I want to see what the new Leaf will cost. If my Tesla USD-AUD price conversion financial model is any good (and it might not be ) a bare-bones USD 35k Model 3 would drive-away here for about AUD 56k. The speculation on the Tesla forums is that Model 3 will have only two battery pack options - 60 kW and 75 kW. We will find out next month when the final car is revealed.
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Post by EVangelist on Jun 18, 2017 12:23:32 GMT 11
I think the deciding factor for leaf is the level of support and commitment to the car and it's owner. If they do what they are doing to us, there will be only very poor sales. Yes and this is where Tesla are very different (at least for now). They only make BEVs, so they are absolutely committed to supporting them, because if they don't, they go out of business.
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Post by pharmadave on Jun 24, 2017 1:33:17 GMT 11
A picture of the new Leaf's interior has just been released. Dash looks good. The little blue button on the Right hand side of the steering wheel is the Pro-Pilot feature.
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