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Post by empowerrepower on Sept 18, 2016 20:45:42 GMT 11
Hi, I'm changing jobs in a few weeks, and going from my 45 km round trip to 108 km of mostly highway driving. My March 2015 registered, 11-bar Leaf has a range on about 95 km, and no amount of careful driving will get me to work and back. I work at a school, and don't think I'm likely to be able to charge there, although I'll investigate further. So that leaves me having to drive our 9-year-old Mitsubishi Grandis, using 10L/per 100 km and more pollution and lots of increased wear-and-tear. I'm so disappointed not to get to drive my Leaf. When I bought the car, I thought I'd be able to get 120 km per charge, but have never managed more than 100 km. My husband will be driving the Leaf on his 16 km work trip, a bit of under-use. Thinking of buying a Toyota Prius V Hybrid people mover next year (need a larger car in the family for Adam's astronomy), but they are expensive, even second hand, as sales in Aus seem modest. Feeling very down in the mouth about it.
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Post by Phoebe on Sept 18, 2016 21:43:37 GMT 11
Hi, I'm changing jobs in a few weeks, and going from my 45 km round trip to 108 km of mostly highway driving. My March 2015 registered, 11-bar Leaf has a range on about 95 km, and no amount of careful driving will get me to work and back. I work at a school, and don't think I'm likely to be able to charge there, although I'll investigate further. So that leaves me having to drive our 9-year-old Mitsubishi Grandis, using 10L/per 100 km and more pollution and lots of increased wear-and-tear. I'm so disappointed not to get to drive my Leaf. When I bought the car, I thought I'd be able to get 120 km per charge, but have never managed more than 100 km. My husband will be driving the Leaf on his 16 km work trip, a bit of under-use. Thinking of buying a Toyota Prius V Hybrid people mover next year (need a larger car in the family for Adam's astronomy), but they are expensive, even second hand, as sales in Aus seem modest. Feeling very down in the mouth about it. Very, very sad Do see if you can charge at the new school. All you need is an outdoor power point and a bit of extra equipment!
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Post by rusdy on Sept 19, 2016 11:42:13 GMT 11
Sorry to hear that. I'd be very disappointed too. If the school too adamant refusing allowing you to charge during park, how far is it from nearby facility that allows you to charge? There is no way I can depart from my EV (that's me though) for regular use. Actually, my regular EV use is my electric bike, but that's not going to work for you either
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Post by caskings on Sept 19, 2016 12:06:42 GMT 11
State or Private school?
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Post by Feng on Sept 19, 2016 13:21:34 GMT 11
Sorry to hear. What is the speed limit of the highway? What condition are your tyres? My range tanked when I got new tires. If it helps, running them at a higher pressure makes an improvement too.
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Post by EVangelist on Sept 19, 2016 14:37:34 GMT 11
My March 2015 registered, 11-bar Leaf has a range on about 95 km, and no amount of careful driving will get me to work and back. That's a bummer. Check out the charging options at the school, even an outdoor 10A socket would be enough since you are there for 6 hours. But you'd need the Amphibian 15A to 10A adaptor, and the waterproof one if you can't park under cover. However there's no margin for error if something goes wrong, which would make me a little nervous about getting home . Are there any Nissan dealers with chargers on the way to or from? That could be backup if something did go wrong (e.g. Ampfibian failed, or tripped, or was interfered with) - get enough charge in 30 mins to get you home.
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Post by stewartm on Sept 20, 2016 17:37:51 GMT 11
Which way are you heading? There may be options. Pm me
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Post by empowerrepower on Sept 21, 2016 8:50:43 GMT 11
My March 2015 registered, 11-bar Leaf has a range on about 95 km, and no amount of careful driving will get me to work and back. That's a bummer. Check out the charging options at the school, even an outdoor 10A socket would be enough since you are there for 6 hours. But you'd need the Amphibian 15A to 10A adaptor, and the waterproof one if you can't park under cover. However there's no margin for error if something goes wrong, which would make me a little nervous about getting home . Are there any Nissan dealers with chargers on the way to or from? That could be backup if something did go wrong (e.g. Ampfibian failed, or tripped, or was interfered with) - get enough charge in 30 mins to get you home. No amount of slow driving on the highway (not fair on other drivers, imho) or fully inflated tires is going to get me from my 95 km highway range to 108 km. There is one slow charger en route at Forest Glen, but stopping there for an hour on the way home hardly seems a practical option. The one fast charger coming to the Sunshine Coast will be at Noosa, 20 minutes drive north, and I live south. My dad lives a few km from the school, so that is another slow charging option. I haven't spotted any outdoor power points near the staff car park, but will ask the groundsman about it. If I do find a suitable power point, in a place where staff are allowed to park, I'd then need to negotiate about purchasing electricity. State schools have very strict rules about not providing any extra benefits to staff, not even coffee, so it could be tricky. There will be occasional days when my husband needs the Grandis for astronomy events, and then I'll need to charge the Leaf en route. Yesterday we went for a test drive of a Mitsubishi Outlander PHEV, and today will test drive a Prius V Hybrid, as possibilities for next year to replace our Mitsubishi Grandis. Neither of these are as nice as a pure electric car, but the Australian market has so few EV choices. Apparently the Outlander PHEV has had disappointing sales in Australia, even though it is the best-selling electric car in Australia - it is really popular OS. There are demo models below $40K, but they may not be available by next year.
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Post by caskings on Sept 21, 2016 13:03:14 GMT 11
One of my staff picked up an ex demo Outlander PHEV with 35 kilometers on the clock for $36k
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Post by 4wardthinking on Sept 21, 2016 18:21:05 GMT 11
Hi, I'm changing jobs in a few weeks, and going from my 45 km round trip to 108 km of mostly highway driving. Â My March 2015 registered, 11-bar Leaf has a range on about 95 km, and no amount of careful driving will get me to work and back. Â I work at a school, and don't think I'm likely to be able to charge there, although I'll investigate further. Â So that leaves me having to drive our 9-year-old Mitsubishi Grandis, using 10L/per 100 km and more pollution and lots of increased wear-and-tear. Â I'm so disappointed not to get to drive my Leaf. Â When I bought the car, I thought I'd be able to get 120 km per charge, but have never managed more than 100 km. Â My husband will be driving the Leaf on his 16 km work trip, a bit of under-use. Â Thinking of buying a Toyota Prius V Hybrid people mover next year (need a larger car in the family for Adam's astronomy), but they are expensive, even second hand, as sales in Aus seem modest. Â Feeling very down in the mouth about it. Our ten bar leaf would do it. If not, try a Toyota Hybrid. Running costs are very low, frugal, quiet & doesn't wreck your breathing(changed it!) equipment with diesel fumes.
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Post by 4wardthinking on Sept 21, 2016 18:36:12 GMT 11
One of my staff picked up an ex demo Outlander PHEV with 35 kilometers on the clock for $36k I have seen a large number being sold for close to $20k recently. One went for just over $17k. Not a bad vehicle, just greedy when the old style engine cuts in, and then the wallet starts to quiver!.
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Post by empowerrepower on Sept 25, 2016 21:39:19 GMT 11
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Post by EVangelist on Sept 26, 2016 0:50:33 GMT 11
We went for test drives this week of the Mitsubishi Outlander PHEV and the Toyota Prius V, as electric as I can get in a larger vehicle, other than a Model S At the start of this year Mitsubishi said they would bring in the new version of the Outlander PHEV around mid-year. If they are clearing old stock, maybe they are getting ready (later than planned) for the new model? The newer model allegedly has better electric-only range and better styling. Just a thought. What about leasing a fuel efficient car for 1-2 years until you have better EV options?
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Post by 4wardthinking on Sept 26, 2016 12:21:15 GMT 11
Being LEAF'd has tainted any future, except EV. All makes perfect sense. I'm suffering from the same disease now, and Australia has no known cure!.
They can hang all the "air-fresheners" they want on a fossil fuel car, ....it's still burning fossil fuels.
LEAF. There is no substitute.
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Post by empowerrepower on Oct 8, 2016 15:25:27 GMT 11
We went for test drives this week of the Mitsubishi Outlander PHEV and the Toyota Prius V, as electric as I can get in a larger vehicle, other than a Model S At the start of this year Mitsubishi said they would bring in the new version of the Outlander PHEV around mid-year. If they are clearing old stock, maybe they are getting ready (later than planned) for the new model? The newer model allegedly has better electric-only range and better styling. Just a thought. What about leasing a fuel efficient car for 1-2 years until you have better EV options? Hi, it doesn't look like the 2017 Mitsubishi PHEV will have a greater electric range than the models currently on sale: handi.tech/2017-mitsubishi-outlander-phev-specs-price-release-date/ - 51 km Mitsubishi haven't yet got a release date for it for Oz. I did check out leasing, but it seems very expensive.
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Post by empowerrepower on Oct 11, 2016 22:55:54 GMT 11
Some very good news, the groundsman has found a spot next to his shed where I can park and charge, and the admin have said that it will be fine for me to do so. It is a student out-of-bounds area too. Super happy. Hoping to be set up to start by the end of this week.
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Post by jake on Oct 11, 2016 23:33:19 GMT 11
Some very good news, the groundsman has found a spot next to his shed where I can park and charge, and the admin have said that it will be fine for me to do so. It is a student out-of-bounds area too. Super happy. Hoping to be set up to start by the end of this week. Fantastic news. Actually one of my schools let me charge in the same way. Keep an eye on the progress of your charging at recess and lunchtime. I got unplugged once.
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Post by Feng on Oct 12, 2016 0:21:41 GMT 11
If you haven't got it working already, the Nissan Connect EV app would be perfect for the unplug notification. Maybe also a dashcam that's always on when charging?
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Post by EVangelist on Oct 12, 2016 13:43:38 GMT 11
Some very good news, the groundsman has found a spot next to his shed where I can park and charge, and the admin have said that it will be fine for me to do so. It is a student out-of-bounds area too. Super happy. Hoping to be set up to start by the end of this week. Fantastic news!! Will you use the Nissan supplied EVSE or a separate one? Is the socket 15A or 10A? If 10A, with Nissan EVSE, you'll need to buy an adaptor such as the Ampfibian (and since you're outside, you'll need the weatherproof one). Maybe you're totally across that You can prevent unplugging at the J-1772 end by buying a small padlock that fits through the small hole in the trigger of the J-1772 gun. With the padlock inserted, it's not possible to depress the trigger to remove the gun. However if you are just plugging into a 10A or 15A GPO, then you can obviously be unplugged at that end unless it is inside a lockable enclosure. And apropos one of my earlier posts... I gently suggest you to think about a "Plan B" for the return journey just in case something goes wrong during the day, e.g. the circuit breaker on the Ampfibian trips for some reason before your car is sufficiently charged (and you discover this too late), or someone unplugs you, etc. Obviously you hope you never need a "Plan B", but it's better to be prepared and know exactly what to do if you need to charge elsewhere on the way home just to make it back. Checking charge status during the day with the Nissan EV app is a good idea but that will only work for 7 more weeks - Telstra is turning 2G off on the 1st December. Once 2G is off, we all no longer have "connected cars"
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Post by stewartm on Oct 12, 2016 18:40:36 GMT 11
Plan b if you are stuck is to use our Siemens Liz, listed on plugshare. Even make you coffee 😉 Sadly I don't have three phase here to use the chademo rapid charger. Stew
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Post by Deleted on Oct 13, 2016 13:39:43 GMT 11
stewartm is there a men's shed nearby? perhaps they have 3 phase?
do you have other 15 amp EVSEs? noticed that you posted JefftheWalker your juicebox
have you noticed if your LEAF pulls 4kW AC from the juicebox? LEAFs and my i3 tend to pull 4kW from 15 amp EVSE/wallboxes
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Post by 4wardthinking on Oct 13, 2016 18:04:49 GMT 11
If you haven't got it working already, the Nissan Connect EV app would be perfect for the unplug notification. Maybe also a dashcam that's always on when charging? Same thing happened to me with a mystery low distance imiev. Parked close to a school(the place were they are so well mannered etc), and charged until used. I sat and watched one day as the plug and cable was a subject of merriment, and cost a few thousand to the owner in recovery. Solved it with a small padlock, and ruined the future alumnii game.
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Post by Feng on Oct 13, 2016 19:20:52 GMT 11
We're the kids caught?
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Post by 4wardthinking on Oct 13, 2016 22:00:24 GMT 11
Unsure. Reported it to the business, and Police. Probably not. I attended that car half a dozen times, arranged it's tow to Mitsubishi, played hell with green energy co that supplied power, spent personal time checking, changing, and even have remnants of one charge cable here now. Cost me a dinner at a restaurant opposite to pacify the wife at such hours. Tested absolutely everything. Pulled the car from a busy intersection at rush hour. All I had to do was watch. Still, as long as temptation is presented, they will take it. That poor imiev got called all the bad names, Mits were scratching their heads, and I was getting early morning text messages when the car got its full charge at week-ends, in the early hours. One of those lessons we had I guess. As they say, we should have known better!. Luckily for them, the post stops power when car is unplugged. Could have been worse. Kids will be kids.
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Post by stewartm on Oct 14, 2016 23:43:24 GMT 11
Feng I haven't noticed the amount pulled. I have a twenty amp circuit and it's never tripped. Will try a clamp meter sometime. No men's sheds that I know of. I use Showgrounds for the portable chademo.
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Post by 4wardthinking on Oct 16, 2016 11:50:54 GMT 11
stewartm is there a men's shed nearby? perhaps they have 3 phase? do you have other 15 amp EVSEs? noticed that you posted JefftheWalker your juicebox have you noticed if your LEAF pulls 4kW AC from the juicebox? LEAFs and my i3 tend to pull 4kW from 15 amp EVSE/wallboxes 4kw from 15 Amp?. Has to be a mains voltage error here. I'd monitor quantity supplied at termination of charge.
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Post by 4wardthinking on Oct 16, 2016 11:52:14 GMT 11
stewartm is there a men's shed nearby? perhaps they have 3 phase? do you have other 15 amp EVSEs? noticed that you posted JefftheWalker your juicebox have you noticed if your LEAF pulls 4kW AC from the juicebox? LEAFs and my i3 tend to pull 4kW from 15 amp EVSE/wallboxes 4kw from 15 Amp?. Has to be a mains voltage error here. I'd monitor quantity supplied at termination of charge. Well someone had to ask.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 16, 2016 12:44:03 GMT 11
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Post by 4wardthinking on Oct 16, 2016 12:54:49 GMT 11
Only at 266volts.
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Post by empowerrepower on Oct 16, 2016 13:00:20 GMT 11
Some very good news, the groundsman has found a spot next to his shed where I can park and charge, and the admin have said that it will be fine for me to do so. It is a student out-of-bounds area too. Super happy. Hoping to be set up to start by the end of this week. Fantastic news!! Will you use the Nissan supplied EVSE or a separate one? Is the socket 15A or 10A? If 10A, with Nissan EVSE, you'll need to buy an adaptor such as the Ampfibian (and since you're outside, you'll need the weatherproof one). Maybe you're totally across that You can prevent unplugging at the J-1772 end by buying a small padlock that fits through the small hole in the trigger of the J-1772 gun. With the padlock inserted, it's not possible to depress the trigger to remove the gun. However if you are just plugging into a 10A or 15A GPO, then you can obviously be unplugged at that end unless it is inside a lockable enclosure. And apropos one of my earlier posts... I gently suggest you to think about a "Plan B" for the return journey just in case something goes wrong during the day, e.g. the circuit breaker on the Ampfibian trips for some reason before your car is sufficiently charged (and you discover this too late), or someone unplugs you, etc. Obviously you hope you never need a "Plan B", but it's better to be prepared and know exactly what to do if you need to charge elsewhere on the way home just to make it back. Checking charge status during the day with the Nissan EV app is a good idea but that will only work for 7 more weeks - Telstra is turning 2G off on the 1st December. Once 2G is off, we all no longer have "connected cars" Hi Evangelist, I'm using the Nissan supplied EVSE from my boot, although getting it in and out every day is a bit painful compared to my wall-mounted Holden Volt one in my carport. I've used it twice now, and the groundsman is unplugging at the wall when he leaves at 2.30 and locks the shed. I have a padlock for the car end that I should start to use. My father lives nearby, so that could be my back-up plan. I'm concerned that my cord might be a bit of an inconvenience for the grounds/facilities guys, although they've been super helpful to me. The only other possible charging point is the unused dental van spot, but that is 3-phase, so would need some sort of converter. It was lovely to get back to driving my Leaf for the last few days. My husband needed the petrol car for a Bris trip on Thursday, so it all happened just in time.
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