Leaf vs Zoe

[stewartm]

We are for the time being a three EV family. One leaf in oz and one leaf and a Zoe in France. Selling the leaf here soon.
Reason being is that the Zoe has ten times the fast charge points than the leaf. Every village has an old or newer 22kw outlet with the 43kw being with the chademo multis. 7 of them vs 150 of the others. In reality this gives a good top up in 30-45 mins. Always a nice bar, restaurant or patisserie nearby here.

In regards the Zoe, there are similarities, but they are smaller, noisier and nowhere near as refined as the leaf. I have been able to compare them for a month. The finish is not as clean and neat, panels aren't as flush. Wind noise is way higher. Interesting that I drive the same way and same speeds etc, the leaf indicates 13kw/100 the Zoe is 15-16kw/100. In saying that the Zoe appears to have more range, go figure.

What I do like is the the "km left" meter in the Zoe, it is very accurate as opposed to the leaf. Could take some tips there Nissan. If it says it has 85 left to run, it's 85, not 50 or 90.
It appears to have less grunt than the leaf. The regen is harder/ stronger in Eco mode than the leaf. You can really do one foot driving even down steep hills, you see 29kw going back in and really pulling the car back. You do not see a large increase in the km left meter however, as you would in the leaf.
Just thought I would share my experiences.

[jake]

Thanks! Very interesting. It would be nice to have a choice of EV in Australia but we will have to wait a few years for that. Glad I've got the Leaf to drive in the meantime.

[4wardthinking]

I can't help, but the km-meter has, or appears to have been subjected to a bit of a "bad rap" on a few occasions.
Now, given my experience, which is growing on a daily basis, I thought I'd throw in my observations as noted.
The good lady wife takes the LEAF during the week, and identical distance every day.
I have noticed that the car re-calculates the modes it's used in & charge required/consumed.
The LEAF has her driving pattern off to a fine art after a few days, and gets more accurate daily.
I predicted Friday's return figure on the display on Friday evening.
My take is that it dynamically applies an algorithm to predict, and now is absolutely spot on.
Now if one throws into the equation a new, different, altitude etc, it's plain to see that the prediction the car gives is based upon only known information.
When one considers the variables that can come into play, one can understand its vague figures offered on the display at times.
All vehicles if the distance to charge or fill is on the display are going to have a inherent problem on predictions.
The crystal ball may appear somewhat 'misted' at times. We humans are very in-predictable at times.
I'm trying to establish how often, or what triggers the re-calculation at the moment, I'll be sure to post it in the relevant place.

[4wardthinking]

Just to add here, apart from the spell-trashing!.

I make no excuses for the phallii purposefully leaving Australia in the rear-view mirror of the world when it comes to advanced technology up-take, however we as the citizens will no doubt pay the price.... as always. There has to be dollar involved here, but if $2.8b can be spent moving a morning traffic jam two kilometres further along, we have little hope of much in reality(climbs down).