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Post by leafboi on Dec 23, 2015 19:32:00 GMT 11
How many years leafboi 79,129. Since 11/11/11. Imiev 3 years to the day on the 21st December the day it ticked over to 70,000km.
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Post by Cachexian (Gordon) on Dec 23, 2015 21:45:07 GMT 11
79,129. Since 11/11/11. Imiev Now that is a day to remember. Wonder what the date will be when you reach 111111km?
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Post by leafboi on Jun 18, 2016 7:53:36 GMT 11
19/06/2016 marked 80,000km for me.
Still only 2 bars down hovering around 51-52ahr in LEAFspy.
A full charge usually shows around 130km but real world would probably yield around 100km. Still within the range I need on a daily basis.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 18, 2016 8:44:30 GMT 11
58918 kms on electric in i3. 70808 kms total 18 June 2016 Since November 2014
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Post by stewartm on Jul 21, 2016 5:06:01 GMT 11
28,200km and second bar lost. Must be the Queensland heat. French leaf at same km, no bar loss. Again not what I was sold by Nissan dealer as expected loss.
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Post by datsunleaf on Jul 21, 2016 10:34:01 GMT 11
We are sitting around 56k at present, 3 bars down and feeling like a 4th is about to go, lucky to get 70 real kls out of a full charge not what I signed up for either after only 2 and a half years :-(
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Post by Feng on Jul 21, 2016 14:37:44 GMT 11
Wow, that's fairly dismal. Have you made any enquiries about it? Do you have LEAFSpy and could it be a case of a few bad cells?
I'm at 73k after three years, down two bars (75% SOH). Can still manage around 120km with careful driving.
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Post by leighf on Jul 21, 2016 22:01:09 GMT 11
I've had mine for four years last week. Just about to hit 80k. Still got 11 bars (must be Melbourne weather!). Range is still fine for my regular commute (60k per day).
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Post by southernvolt on Jul 21, 2016 22:29:08 GMT 11
2 year in Sept and sitting around 47500 kms. One bar lost.
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Post by rusdy on Jul 22, 2016 13:39:57 GMT 11
Nothing interesting with mine: 33,000km (20,000km on my ownership after one year). The capacity (taken from LeafSpy) is interesting though (attached): I've just gained 6% just recently from dealer servicing. Not the 'Hx' though (not sure what that is).
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Post by Feng on Jul 22, 2016 15:07:37 GMT 11
Hx is health. Do you know if they installed the P3227 update at your last service? It might have just reset the stats and will need a few weeks to re-learn its true capacity. Sorry to be a party pooper!
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Post by rusdy on Jul 22, 2016 15:50:56 GMT 11
Hx is health. Do you know if they installed the P3227 update at your last service? It might have just reset the stats and will need a few weeks to re-learn its true capacity. Sorry to be a party pooper! Party pooper indeed! Although I don't believe there is such thing called 'true' capacity (unless one do full charge-discharge cycle). So I'm going to pretend that my battery is still 100%!!! Not sure what software update, the description in the invoice not revealing enough. My next plan service at the dealer is... never. After 33000km with 10% brake pad wear is not bad! I think we should hold a competition who has the least brake-pad wear after 100,000km.
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Post by earlyadopter on Sept 4, 2016 10:31:11 GMT 11
19/06/2016 marked 80,000km for me. Still only 2 bars down hovering around 51-52ahr in LEAFspy. A full charge usually shows around 130km but real world would probably yield around 100km. Still within the range I need on a daily basis. That still sounds reasonable. Not the case for my Leaf, it still has 12 bars of capacity and even when I average at 0.13kWh/km I can't get over 100km on a full charge. From the wall outlet using the onboard charger 18.2kW was used to bring the car from --- to 100% charge.
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Post by jeffthewalker on Sept 4, 2016 14:36:58 GMT 11
19/06/2016 marked 80,000km for me. Still only 2 bars down hovering around 51-52ahr in LEAFspy. A full charge usually shows around 130km but real world would probably yield around 100km. Still within the range I need on a daily basis. That still sounds reasonable. Not the case for my Leaf, it still has 12 bars of capacity and even when I average at 0.13kWh/km I can't get over 100km on a full charge. From the wall outlet using the onboard charger 18.2kW was used to bring the car from --- to 100% charge. I am nudging 24,000kms, 12 bars. LEAF Spy gives me two different numbers for Amp Hours. On the first page (Batt Sts) AHr=55.47. On the third page 49.06Ah. Which one means what?
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Post by hieronymous on Sept 4, 2016 15:04:21 GMT 11
That still sounds reasonable. Not the case for my Leaf, it still has 12 bars of capacity and even when I average at 0.13kWh/km I can't get over 100km on a full charge. From the wall outlet using the onboard charger 18.2kW was used to bring the car from --- to 100% charge. I am nudging 24,000kms, 12 bars. LEAF Spy gives me two different numbers for Amp Hours. On the first page (Batt Sts) AHr=55.47. On the third page 49.06Ah. Which one means what? Hi Jeff Screen 1 AHr is current battery max. capacity. Screen 3 AHr is AHr currently available based on SoC %. So your SoC % at reading is 88%.
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Post by jeffthewalker on Sept 4, 2016 18:10:57 GMT 11
I am nudging 24,000kms, 12 bars. LEAF Spy gives me two different numbers for Amp Hours. On the first page (Batt Sts) AHr=55.47. On the third page 49.06Ah. Which one means what? Hi Jeff Screen 1 AHr is current battery max. capacity. Screen 3 AHr is AHr currently available based on SoC %. So your SoC % at reading is 88%. Just lost my first bar:-(. Hmm. I accept current battery capacity is 56Ahr (and dropping over time). I expect it to be down on new. Should I expect to be able to charge this 56Ahr to 100%? The following readings are all after a 100% charge. I also cannot reconcile HV X Ah = kWh whereas I get 392 X 50Ah = 19.6kWh (LEAF Spy shows 17.5kWh). I'll have to stop "doing the numbers" and just enjoy my LEAF:-). Full charge Air degC Batt degC Odometer Ahr SOH% Hx% QC L1/L2 7 Aug 2016 10 14.3 22,344 56.72 86 73.18 54 666 9 Aug 2016 4 7.4 22,375 56.72 86 73.18 54 667 13 Aug 2016 15 17 22,840 56.61 86 72.91 59 673 26 Aug 2016 10 16 22,640 55.77 85 70.79 59 691 29 Aug 2016 12 15.5 23,669 55.67 84 70.56 59 692 4 Sep 2016 17 15 23,904 55.29 84 69.58 60 697 Date HV Avg cell V SOC kWh Ah Gids %GIDs Bars 7 Aug 2016 392.17 4.088 89.2 17.4 50.62 225 80.1 12 9 Aug 2016 392.01 4.086 88.8 17.3 50.34 223 78.8 12 13 Aug 2016 392.5 4.026 91.1 17.8 51.56 230 81.9 12 26 Aug 2016 391.5 4.048 88.2 16.9 49.19 218 77.6 12 29 Aug 2016 392.5 4.048 89 17.1 49.59 221 78.1 12 4 Sep 2016 391.5 4.048 89 16.9 48.93 218 77.6 11
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Post by Phoebe on Sept 4, 2016 19:02:33 GMT 11
I just enjoy my LEAF. I don't reckon that knowing the numbers makes any difference to the performance
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Post by hieronymous on Sept 4, 2016 19:51:25 GMT 11
100% is 100% SoC which is always relative to current capacity, so you should be able to always charge to 100%.
Don't follow the two AHr value sets from your data. If your calculation used a new battery AHr value (66.25) the answer would be in excess of the nominal pack size (24 KWh).
Perhaps that's where the need for (absolute) GID's came from - 222 GIDs * 77.5 wh = 17.2 KWh.
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Post by stewartm on Sept 4, 2016 20:21:16 GMT 11
Just on 30,000km. Two bars gone. At new, full guess o meter was 188km, now 130km. Don't use AC and use Eco for all driving. Garaged on the Sunshine Coast so never too hot. It is less than I expected to be honest, but when it no longer meets my needs, I will get a new pack.
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Post by jeffthewalker on Sept 4, 2016 23:06:36 GMT 11
Just on 30,000km. Two bars gone. At new, full guess o meter was 188km, now 130km. Don't use AC and use Eco for all driving. Garaged on the Sunshine Coast so never too hot. It is less than I expected to be honest, but when it no longer meets my needs, I will get a new pack. 24,000km. Lost my first bar this morning.
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Post by rusdy on Sept 5, 2016 16:07:00 GMT 11
I also cannot reconcile HV X Ah = kWh whereas I get 392 X 50Ah = 19.6kWh (LEAF Spy shows 17.5kWh). That's because you need to use 360 Volts battery voltage. When the battery is in use, the voltage drops (and also droops). The Wh available depends on how you load (i.e. drive) the battery. Thankfully, for lithium, this is pretty flat (unlike the evil Pb based batteries, the more you load, the less Wh available). Ah will be the most accurate to gauge the SOC (i.e. Coulomb counting). But Wh is much more workable to most people. Geek mode finished
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Post by jeffthewalker on Sept 5, 2016 22:05:57 GMT 11
I also cannot reconcile HV X Ah = kWh whereas I get 392 X 50Ah = 19.6kWh (LEAF Spy shows 17.5kWh). That's because you need to use 360 Volts battery voltage. When the battery is in use, the voltage drops (and also droops). The Wh available depends on how you load (i.e. drive) the battery. Thankfully, for lithium, this is pretty flat (unlike the evil Pb based batteries, the more you load, the less Wh available). Ah will be the most accurate to gauge the SOC (i.e. Coulomb counting). But Wh is much more workable to most people. Geek mode finished 8-| Thanks (I think:-).
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Post by 4wardthinking on Sept 7, 2016 14:43:54 GMT 11
That's because you need to use 360 Volts battery voltage. When the battery is in use, the voltage drops (and also droops). The Wh available depends on how you load (i.e. drive) the battery. Thankfully, for lithium, this is pretty flat (unlike the evil Pb based batteries, the more you load, the less Wh available). Ah will be the most accurate to gauge the SOC (i.e. Coulomb counting). But Wh is much more workable to most people. Geek mode finished Thanks (I think:-). PEUKERT, why did he have to open his mouth??.. This is why the figures are all changing rapidly, the ambient temps are changing. Now if we don't hammer the pack for the next six months, we'll probably get a nice bonus then. Power from cells is quite an interesting subject, then we string them together to compound the problem.... and requirements. Now I wonder if others have noticed an odd thing. Now we gained a bar yesterday on our GOM, but I notice others are all around the same time??. I wonder if this can be tested by someone without telemetry in their LEAF?.
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Post by Phoebe on Sept 7, 2016 16:54:50 GMT 11
What is telemetry, I probably haven't got it? What am I looking for?
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Post by rusdy on Sept 8, 2016 18:35:37 GMT 11
Now I wonder if others have noticed an odd thing. Now we gained a bar yesterday on our GOM, but I notice others are all around the same time??. Not me!
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Post by jake on Sept 9, 2016 15:47:58 GMT 11
Just hit 30,000 km. 1 year owned, still 12 bars.
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Post by leafboi on Nov 29, 2016 6:57:05 GMT 11
18th November 2016
90,000km
Still only 2 bars down with LEAF spy showing AHr of 50.42 SOH 76% Hx 71.24%
Of note is my total L2 charge ups of 3767, 23.89km average distance traveled between charges.
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Post by EVangelist on Nov 29, 2016 8:31:21 GMT 11
I ticked over to 20,000 km yesterday, bang on our average of just under 10,000 km per year. Only one bar down.
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Post by Feng on Nov 29, 2016 10:11:52 GMT 11
I just passed 81,700 and lost my third capacity bar this morning. 47.46 AHr, 72% SOH, 65.75% Hx.
Must be a combination of cooler Victorian weather and shallower charges because I'm at 2416 L2 charges.
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Post by jake on Dec 2, 2016 10:32:52 GMT 11
I just passed 81,700 and lost my third capacity bar this morning. 47.46 AHr, 72% SOH, 65.75% Hx. Must be a combination of cooler Victorian weather and shallower charges because I'm at 2416 L2 charges. Maybe should have also posted this under "Vanishing Bars". Has your car still got all the range for your needs? How far can you go on a charge now? I am worried that when my battery gets that low I might not make it to work. On one day a week I have a long commute and I am getting home with the low battery warning and my car has 11 bars.
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