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Post by David on Feb 28, 2013 14:05:50 GMT 11
I was just wondering how many Kms are being done by the various leaf owners. Since getting mine almost 5 months ago, I have just gone past the 10,000km mark. It is such a great car that we use it for most of our driving, including weekend visits etc.. that used to be done in my wife's fossil fuel burner. I have attached a photo, hope you can see it. Just booked in for the 10,000km service. I sense a slight reduction in range, but nothing that has caused any inconvenience
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Post by leafboi on Feb 28, 2013 16:06:41 GMT 11
Hey David! Great mile stone. Maybe the first LEAF in AU to reach that? We have 5500kms on ours and we took deliverey on 21st December. So I won't see it long before ours is up there too. When you say you can feel a slight reduction in range, what do you mean? Less range in kms showing after a charge or actual driving rage? Would be good to know. You haven't lost a capacity bar have you??
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Post by David on Mar 1, 2013 13:05:23 GMT 11
I mean a slight reduction in actual range. I say this as on Mondays I am regularly driving 120-130km, I used to get home with about 20km left on the range, now it is around 10km with the warning light on. I have not lost a capacity bar, still shows all the bars when full You have done 5500km in 2 months, that's more than I am averaging I will be having the car serviced in one week, so will let you know if there is any problem detected
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Post by Brian on Mar 1, 2013 17:03:47 GMT 11
We are a tortoise by comparison - 5,064 kms in 8 months may well be the lowest monthly average of our group. Our LEAF is not a work or commute vehicle, but is used on frequent short trips, visits to friends and on any possible excuse ! . . . because it is such a joy to drive. Meanwhile, the FFB gathers dust. The pic shows 80% charge with 112 km predicted range. The latter is usually higher, but reflects the fact that the most recent trip came up the hill ( 740 ft altitude ). David, we will all be most interested in the ' Battery report ' that you should be given after your service. Could the lower estimated range be a reflection of change of driving style ( not as gentle on the accelerator ) or driving conditions ( more congestion requiring more frequent acceleration ) or change of temperature ( hotter summer months ) ? There is clear evidence that the batteries do not perform as well under extremes of temperature.
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Post by Phoebe on Mar 2, 2013 9:46:58 GMT 11
I have only done 800 km in 4 months. The only conclusion you can draw from that is that I spend most of my time at home, either on the computer or working in the garden When I have driven far enough to draw any conclusions about my LEAF I'll let you know.
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Post by David on Mar 2, 2013 16:58:18 GMT 11
My car is booked for service on Thursday 7th of March, so will let you all know. There has certainly been some hot weather, but driving style/conditions much the same. In the meantime Phoebe, I dream of your situation, but can't dwell on it too long as I have at least 5 more years before the kids fully fly the nest, so drive I must
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Post by Jim Hare on Mar 3, 2013 21:56:21 GMT 11
We got ours in June (1st private owners in Australia!) We have about 7,000kms on ours. I feel like we are losing range as well, maybe 10%. We have a check up coming up and I'll be interested to see the results.
Could be that we have been using the A/C for the first time so it's changing the average over time.
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Post by David on Mar 7, 2013 21:09:08 GMT 11
Took the car in this morning for the 10000km service, to be met by a guy who said and I quote "haven't had one of these before' I am still amazed by the lack of any apparent interest in this car by Nissan. But enough of that I have winged enough about this before (although I could not help noticing that there is not longer a Leaf in the showroom). So I have attached a photo of the battery report which tells me all is ship shape. I couldn't work out how to attach the top half of the report as well to this post, so will do so in a separate post. Happy electric motoring to you alljavascript:add("%20:)")
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Post by David on Mar 7, 2013 21:11:07 GMT 11
Top part of report. Have to learn to take photos without having the shadow of my hands in the photos
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Post by Phoebe on Mar 8, 2013 3:51:03 GMT 11
Not sure that I understand that report. 12 bars and 5 stars looks good, but what is the 82. If my range was 82 when battery fully charged I'd think that was pretty awful
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Post by Jim Hare on Mar 8, 2013 7:38:30 GMT 11
My guess is that's a stock image from the US and it's 82miles. 131KM.
Will be interested to see what my report says. Seems like at 80% we top out at 100KMs/charge and 100% maybe 120.
Air con hasn't been used excessively but certainly a measurable percentage.
Hoping it's something simple like that and not a loss of battery capacity.
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Post by Brian on Mar 10, 2013 0:40:11 GMT 11
Jim, are those readings in D ( Drive ) or ECO ( Economy ) ?
Because we always drive in ECO, despite my wife's predisposition to the medical condition Pedus Plumbii ( lead foot ), it is the ECO readings that I watch. But I still view those as produced by the Guess-o-meter.
On my electric motorcycle I have retro-fitted a cyclic analyser which, in addition to similar instrumentation on the LEAF, gives me battery voltage, Amps used during charge or when driving, and AmpHrs consumed during charge, or used since last charge. I find these give me a more complete picture of the battery status.
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Post by Brian on Mar 10, 2013 0:44:04 GMT 11
David, if you have a scanner or multi-function printer, scanning would avoid the ' shadow ' problem.
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Post by Phoebe on Mar 10, 2013 4:21:12 GMT 11
Yes, Brian, I always drive in ECO too (with no air con), so it's the ECO readings that I watch also. On full charge in ECO my range still reads between 190 and 200. But, going up hill they seem to disappear twice as fast as they did when I first got my LEAF.
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Post by David on Mar 10, 2013 17:38:20 GMT 11
I missed the number 82, but certainly I am still driving up to 125km with around 10-15 on the estimator. I think the AC does make a difference, although not great. To be honest I am not convinced that ECO mode helps much if you normally drive sensibly. I find you start with a higher number on the estimator if you have a full battery and put it in ECO, but after driving about 100km, I find the estimator around 50 regardless of ECO or D. I love the medical condition pedis Plumbii, could not find anything in the medical literature about it though! I do have a scanner, but was away from home and office and took pictures with my iphone. The message is to have the light in front of you not behind you as I have brilliantly demonstrated
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Post by Brian on Mar 10, 2013 22:37:59 GMT 11
Apologies to our learned medical brethren members - I coined the term in ' dog Latin ', in an effort to confound the Rum Corps Phoebe, I have never seen 190 to 200 predicted on our LEAF, even when new. But from what you report, it sounds a little like ' Fool's Gold ' Unintentionally, our LEAF emulated Duncan's figures today. From 100% charge, it covered 49.5 kms, with an estimated 21kms predicted remaining. I was at an Electikhana event, giving many members of the public the chance to drive an electric car for the first time. On my urging, there was a lot of putting the pedal to the metal during short laps of the RAC of WA Driving Centre. In the process, I believe we opened many people's eyes to just how good today's electric cars are, and the LEAF in particular. On the day, several people had also test driven the iMiev and the Volt and some home conversions, but they all declared the LEAF to be far and away the best ( but we all knew that, didn't we ? )
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Post by Jim Hare on Mar 10, 2013 22:55:08 GMT 11
We only drive in Eco Mode. We try to limit use of air-con but have been using it this summer. Still worried about our apparent drop in capacity. Will keep an eye on it and report back if I figure out anything concrete. Jim, are those readings in D ( Drive ) or ECO ( Economy ) ? Because we always drive in ECO, despite my wife's predisposition to the medical condition Pedus Plumbii ( lead foot ), it is the ECO readings that I watch. But I still view those as produced by the Guess-o-meter. On my electric motorcycle I have retro-fitted a cyclic analyser which, in addition to similar instrumentation on the LEAF, gives me battery voltage, Amps used during charge or when driving, and AmpHrs consumed during charge, or used since last charge. I find these give me a more complete picture of the battery status.
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Post by duncan on Mar 11, 2013 6:52:23 GMT 11
where's the like button
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Post by Phoebe on Mar 11, 2013 8:18:22 GMT 11
I've been looking for that, too, Duncan
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Post by Jim Hare on Mar 15, 2013 13:43:58 GMT 11
Okay, FINALLY got around to checking our tyre pressure and found it was surprisingly low, like 29-30PSI.
I brought the LEAF to its first Petrol station ever and filled them to 35PSI.
I'll let you know if our overall milage improves. We have recently been getting about 100kms from 80% and about 125 on 100%.
In the first few months we were getting more like 125 from 80% and 160 from 100%.
I'll let you know what happens!
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Post by Phoebe on Mar 15, 2013 14:04:18 GMT 11
Jim, your poor LEAF, having to go to a Petrol station So glad I have a footpump at home and my LEAF will never need to do that
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Post by Jim Hare on Mar 15, 2013 14:09:14 GMT 11
I don't know Phoebe, more of a badge of honour, just stopping in for good old free air!
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Post by Phoebe on Mar 15, 2013 15:08:46 GMT 11
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Post by Brian on Mar 16, 2013 0:06:29 GMT 11
Service stations can be useful in other ways. Once, on my electric m/c I got low on battery. The on-board charger can plug into any 10Amp socket. I was near the service station where I used to buy my fossil fuel. So a quick search revealed the hand dryer in the men's toilet plugged into a 10A socket. So, unplug this, plug in my m/c charger lead, and 30 minutes later I had sufficient charge to reach my destination
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Post by Jim Hare on Mar 16, 2013 9:17:04 GMT 11
Heh, good one Brian. Imagine you raised some eyebrows with an extension cord going into the bathroom!
Plus the irony of the petrol station paying to supply your car with fuel! Gotta love it.
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Post by Phoebe on Mar 16, 2013 10:00:34 GMT 11
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Post by Brian on Mar 19, 2013 0:24:18 GMT 11
Of course, it would be great if hand dryers needed 15A sockets
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Post by Phoebe on Mar 19, 2013 8:46:52 GMT 11
How many amps does your motor cycle draw, Brian? I could use my Ampfian RV2 in a Service Station in the Ladies Hand Dryer socket to charge my LEAF but I wouldn't in case someone used the Mens Hand Dryer at the same time and tripped the Service Station circuit breaker - that would be most unpopular
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Post by Brian on Mar 20, 2013 21:57:31 GMT 11
The bike only draws a modest 10 Amps. What you could do, Phoebe, is check that no-one is about, then duck into the men's toilet, unplug the hand dryer, put an ' Unserviceable ' tag on the lead, then use the Ladies hand dryer socket
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Post by Phoebe on Mar 21, 2013 6:47:51 GMT 11
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