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Post by hieronymous on Dec 16, 2015 15:57:53 GMT 11
If Nissan are going to play hard ball, then do your convoy but under ideal conditions, fine, dry, flat, 70kph on cruise control, and run it from 100% to turtle, then if that is only 100k or so, I strongly suggest you head for the CAB (Citizens Advice Bureau) for legal advice, then take a case against Nissan for mis-representation as to the range of your Leaf. Your car is not fit-for-purpose compared to the Leaf advertising.
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Post by organist on Dec 19, 2015 0:23:31 GMT 11
I'm doing a promotional journey around the South Island and passing thru Christchurch on Monday 11 January. How about I drop by the Service Centre under the faulty conditions and get them to look at the cell difference then? Only question is - do I get the Hawkes Bay guy I've been complaining to to book the slot, or book it myself, or get someone in Chch to book the time and take my car?
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Post by jeffjl on Dec 21, 2015 1:47:38 GMT 11
If I measure the kWh at charging input, I would put in around 17kWh (which close to your figure above), considering charger and Lithium round trip efficiency (around 80%, don't have the reference handy at the moment). Quick charger is more efficient by the way (strange isn't it?). I have noticed that the QC is more efficient as well, but then I realised that I was measuring the power put into the vehicle. The QC is DC so the losses due to the inverter have already occurred. Via AC charging the losses in the inverter are post entry to the vehicle. I have never got more than 12.5kWh into my LEAF.
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Post by rusdy on Dec 21, 2015 14:23:37 GMT 11
I have never got more than 12.5kWh into my LEAF. True. At low SoC, the battery percentage at the QC display is pretty accurate. At high SoC, it says 100% although it's below 80% actual. Black magic!
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Post by philcanberra on Jan 1, 2016 8:30:38 GMT 11
I am certainly interested in anyone else's experiences in Nissan's reaction to this problem. My "local" LEAF Technician is soon forwarding all my logs and info to Nissan NZ and I'm hoping they might see past the 5-star battery tests and look to replace one segment of my battery pack... Here's hoping anyhow... Hi. When my leaf was new in 2012 leaf spy showed health at 101.5% and it would take 23.8Kwh of charge. Fast forward to now, my health is down to 80.3% and I can now only hold 18.9kwh and only get around 90km from a 100% charge. Phillip
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Post by organist on Jan 1, 2016 8:32:10 GMT 11
I'm finding I can get about 95km on the open road (flat) and 80km around town (a little hilly)...
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Post by hieronymous on Jan 1, 2016 10:40:04 GMT 11
I'm finding I can get about 95km on the open road (flat) and 80km around town (a little hilly)... From 100% charge? Down to what, LBW, VLBW, turtle? You bought new? How long have you had the car, and how many km on the odo now?
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Post by organist on Jan 1, 2016 10:41:03 GMT 11
Turtle
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Post by Feng on Jan 1, 2016 11:14:22 GMT 11
Hi. When my leaf was new in 2012 leaf spy showed health at 101.5% and it would take 23.8Kwh of charge. Fast forward to now, my health is down to 80.3% and I can now only hold 18.9kwh and only get around 90km from a 100% charge. How many kms have you done Phil? I used to be impressed with your battery health, putting it down to the cold Canberra weather helping prolong its life. I'm about to reach 60k and my health hovers between 77-78% over summer. I've just replaced my tyres, I reckon I could have squeezed a few thousand more kms out of them but there was a Bridgestone special going on. I also had one tyre that wasn't the same as the rest that I wanted replaced. I got the same tyres as the originals but because they're new I'm losing 10-20kms range until they're broken in. Didn't know that was a thing until I read up on it. I've read criticisms against Ecopias but haven't had any problems with them myself, probably because I don't push them so hard while I'm busy hypermiling!
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