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Post by stewartm on Aug 6, 2017 2:03:33 GMT 11
Test drove the Ioniq EV today, extremely impressed. There are three Ioniq's, standard hybrid like prius, plug in hybrid, and pure EV. Drove the Leaf to Lorient so I had a direct comparison. It was comfortable, smooth, bit more room inside than the leaf. Equal smoothness over tough road as the leaf, quieter motor even under hard acceleration. Leaves the Renault Zoe behind in all aspects. Given the Zoe model is 4 years old, leaf 6 years old, the new technology in the Ioniq impressed. Adaptive cruise, auto braking, lane correction etc. things like the cruise changing to reflect the speed on the gps map, or what the camera sees. Autodrive is not far off this currently. The range is listed at 280, in this it had 80% and listed 194km left. I noted that climate on reduced it by only 5km. Depending on price, and the fitout if the new leaf, I would seriously consider this. Lastly, a salesman who knew everything about the vehicle, and I mean everything. He was also rational saying that the 280km is unrealistic if you drive it like your ICE car, he said expect 220-240. He also said I wouldn't get a 20 minute fill as the Chargers are not 100kw but 55kw locally, so expect 40 minutes at a CCS chargepoint. He noted also that over the years, the battery would lose capacity. Amazing.    |
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Post by pharmadave on Aug 6, 2017 12:01:11 GMT 11
That's awesome to hear. Especially the climate not making too big of a dent in range.
What's the boot space like?
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Post by rusdy on Aug 7, 2017 12:26:02 GMT 11
... He noted also that over the years, the battery would lose capacity... Boy oh boy, you convince me as well. I'm eagerly awaiting for the price. Also, battery details. I'm certain Tesla model 3 has a good battery degradation (i.e. low). I'm assuming not so far behind for new Leaf. However, Ioniq? |
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Post by stewartm on Aug 9, 2017 5:04:36 GMT 11
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Post by stewartm on Aug 9, 2017 5:07:42 GMT 11
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Post by pharmadave on Aug 9, 2017 21:59:58 GMT 11
Boot space is large, here are a few more pics. There were three driving modes, Eco, normal and sport. Also there are three regen levels set by the paddles behind the steering wheel, on the strongest, it was like heavy braking. True one pedal driving. Did you manage to have a look under the flap in the boot? Is it yet more storage like many other EVs? I find it funny how they have a plastic engine cover under the bonnet, similar to what Nissan did with first gen Leaf making the cover look like a valve cover. |
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Post by empowerrepower on Aug 10, 2017 2:21:45 GMT 11
Thanks Stewart, so great that you can check out cars for us that we haven't yet got here, so at least satisfy our curiosity. Sigh....
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Post by stewartm on Aug 11, 2017 6:56:19 GMT 11
Yes under the boot cover is a tow hitch, tyre repair thingy, no spare, and an area to put the home charge cable, EVSE.
Very neat finish all over, the copper highlights inside and out are different, they look good inside.
The level of safety with the Doppler radar, camera etc is very impressive. The traffic, people collision avoidance system works well.
The new leaf better have the same levels or it will drift behind.
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Post by pharmadave on Aug 17, 2017 23:46:56 GMT 11
I hear that Hyundai is having trouble keeping up with the pure EV version's batteries and have run out of stock to sell in the US. Which is also having a flow on effect with a delayed introduction into the Australian market. Although, I would be surprised if Hyundai Australia was keen to have the Ioniq EV anyway, it seems they are more keen to have the Hybrid and the Plug-in Hybrid and less interested to have the pure EV. electrek.co/2017/06/09/hyundai-ioniq-electric-production-increase/ |
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Post by alison on Aug 21, 2017 9:57:13 GMT 11
Pretty sure I was at an EV talk at All-Energy last year where the Hyundai rep got up and mentioned that they intended to bring all variants.
Hardly an iron-clad promise of course.
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Post by stewartm on Aug 23, 2017 22:58:46 GMT 11
My understanding was that of Alison, all three types would be released in oz. the new leaf will have to be good to beat it.
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Post by EVangelist on Aug 24, 2017 23:59:55 GMT 11
It has a somewhat quirky looking steering wheel, and I note it still seems to have a "transmission" tunnel that splits the rear seat area, but overall it looks like a nice package and the boot looks huge! The range needs to be better though - Model 3 is really setting the bar high with 350 km for the standard range and 510 km for the long range. Also the "minimalist" interior look of the Model 3 is growing on me, and not just because I have a reservation  I like the fact that the Model 3 has no transmission tunnel so a completely flat floor for the rear seats, and a "frunk" (or as we say here "froot") whereas other BEV makers seem compelled to fill what was formerly the engine bay with lots of "stuff". I suspect the Ioniq has a lot of ICE-legacy form factor such as the transmission tunnel and an "engine bay" because Hyundai use the same platform for all three variants. Yes that saves money and lowers production costs, but it's also why traditional ICE carmakers will have such a hard time competing with Tesla - they will always be conflicted to some degree when making a BEV, and that results in suboptimal implementations. |
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Post by stewartm on Aug 25, 2017 6:48:34 GMT 11
Yes take your points, but by using a standard platform it opens up for regular folks to buy one. At €22k on road it competes well with ICE cars. Steering wheel has a flat base, I'm not a fan of that myself, but having driven in it, the car does well as an entry. Given that in Europe long trips are very much the exception, and that just about every village has now or will have shortly a charge station, its range isn't a big issue.
For oz, I think range and the lack of charging IS the issue, so the tesla 3 will do well.
I think the Renault Zoe will make a mark with the 400km battery. Once again the issue will be advertising, dealer support, and infrastructure.
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Post by stewartm on Nov 28, 2017 19:58:50 GMT 11
Australian pricing announced, all electric for $43k plus ORC. Certainly cheaper than the Zoe and potentially Leaf. www.motoring.com.au/hyundai-ioniq-goes-for-toyota-prius-jugular-109989/ I can vouch for the vehicle, it is very well equipped, as quiet and driveable as the Leaf, better than the Zoe. Owning 2 Leafs and a Zoe, and driving th3 Ioniq, I would buy at this price. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 29, 2017 7:56:21 GMT 11
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Post by rusdy on Nov 29, 2017 11:50:38 GMT 11
I hate to admit this, but... it actually looks much better than the Leaf!!
Except the internals. I like Leaf much better on internals.
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Post by stewartm on Nov 29, 2017 11:59:02 GMT 11
g4qber, no it doesn't whine even under full acceleration. Very quiet and comfortable, good room in the back as well.
My 'French' salesman demonstrator at 130km/h on the motorway did a hand and feet off and shut his eyes to demonstrate the lane management, radar cruise etc.
My wife was not impressed! She did agree after driving the LEAF and ZOE, that she would prefer it, better range, room and comfort.
In fact when we return mid next year, we have arranged to trade the Leaf and Zoe in on an IONIQ
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