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Post by Deleted on Oct 23, 2016 10:18:44 GMT 11
Don't seem to be able to see the video Tesla might be doing this indirectly zerocarbonworld.orgIe giving away chargers to businesses that qualify.
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Post by EVtricity on Oct 23, 2016 22:38:44 GMT 11
This Tesla Destination Charging page states "Qualified properties will receive their first two Tesla wall connectors free of charge as long as they are installed in visible or convenient locations"
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Post by markrmarkr on Oct 24, 2016 19:03:30 GMT 11
Don't seem to be able to see the video ... That's no good. Did you go here? There are 3 pictures and 2 videos. Anyone else have problems?
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Post by Phoebe on Oct 24, 2016 20:01:53 GMT 11
I can only see 1 picture and no videos.
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Post by markrmarkr on Oct 24, 2016 21:59:09 GMT 11
can anyone see all 5?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 25, 2016 11:26:19 GMT 11
Ditto one pic, no vids, iOS 10.1 beta 4
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Post by markrmarkr on Oct 26, 2016 8:35:19 GMT 11
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Post by Phoebe on Oct 26, 2016 9:51:34 GMT 11
That new link is working for me, Mark. Can see 3 photos and 2 videos now.
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Post by 4wardthinking on Oct 26, 2016 10:14:43 GMT 11
Not a bad price in all reality. I bought a Mercedes EV yellow coiled Mennekes to Mennekes m-f cable. One short cable end will be the adapter, the other will be the other type. The seemingly expensive part is the J1772 plug.
Good priced adapter.
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Post by leafmedo on Oct 27, 2016 20:40:33 GMT 11
When you say "shorten", do you mean use a hacksaw to shorten the Mennekes male socket by 11mm? Or do you mean get the male-socket end replaced with the inlet-port-male-socket? Or either? I haven't seen any charge stations which use Mennekes locally, except for use with Tesla S. But there seems to be as many of these as J1772 charge stations, so this would be very useful. Do Tesla's use the charge point swipe card, the same as we use for J1772. Sorry for all the questions. Mark
Cut my connector. Thank you all for the tips.
Try out my cable with the modified connector today and it works. The cable was an old Better Place supplied cable. You can get similar cables on AliExpress or eBay for about $200.
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Post by kris on Nov 7, 2016 15:34:18 GMT 11
A mate has a HPWC installed at his work address to top up his Tesla. I'm gonna have to buy one of these now aren't I? I mean if I get there early, before him, the look on his face when he finds my Leaf slurping electrons in his parking spot should be worth the couple of hundred bucks cable cost, right?
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Post by chuq on Nov 20, 2016 17:03:39 GMT 11
I'm keen to hear peoples views on this. Is it ethical to suggest to host sites that they install one of these, with the intention of using it with a Leaf?
How should a host site is approached: "You can install a J1772 charger at a cost of thousands, or you can install a Tesla destination charger at a cost of a couple of hundred." (Note sure of exact costs but surely the difference is significant and can be the difference between installing a charger ornot)
Some sites, particularly local councils, may be unsure about installing HPWCs (as opposed to an open standard) since it may look like they are being elitist by exclusively supporting Teslas. So telling them that they can be used by other EV owners may be a good thing. It's also less ratepayers money being spent.
How do you explain it to a host site but say "don't tell Tesla". They may feel like they are being fraudulent.
I'd be happy making a donation to use such a facility and also happy to give priority to Teslas. I don't want to rip off Tesla, in fact I'm a Model 3 reservation holder. If I had such an adaptor tomorrow I'd probably only use this a dozen times before the Model 3 arrived.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 20, 2016 18:58:13 GMT 11
Perhaps we can have a sign attached to non teslas Saying "please unplug me if you are a tesla and plug me back when finished"
Ditto reservation holder for now
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Post by EVangelist on Nov 20, 2016 19:21:46 GMT 11
Chuq - an interesting question. Tesla's mission is to speed the adoption of sustainable transport, so they may not mind their destination chargers being used by other EVs even if they don't specifically encourage it, because it helps more people to take more trips in EVs that they otherwise would not.
At the Sydney meet today, one of the Leaf owners said they've never copped flak from a Tesla owner for using an adapter to charge his Leaf from Tesla HPWCs. But it would be courtesy to leave a note on the dash should a Tesla owner turn up and need to charge.
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Post by chuq on Nov 20, 2016 22:46:01 GMT 11
I would certainly have a note or a sign, such as a "door hanger" around the charging cord with a "due back by" time and mobile number. At least with the Leaf, anyone can unplug the cord (unlike the Tesla where it is locked in while the car is locked).
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Post by Deleted on Nov 21, 2016 1:20:23 GMT 11
BMW also locks j1772 side on charge and car is locked. But this shouldn't be a problem cos one is using the adaptor.
Will be interesting for nz i3 owners who will have their sockets changed to mennekes in the near future.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 21, 2016 19:50:10 GMT 11
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Post by iamlsd on Nov 22, 2016 14:36:37 GMT 11
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Post by Feng on Nov 22, 2016 16:32:57 GMT 11
If they ever get cash strapped they could start selling their own CHAdeMO/CCS adapters and charge non-Tesla owners a higher price for SC usage. There could be good money there for them.
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Post by EVangelist on Nov 22, 2016 18:42:47 GMT 11
I wonder if the tesla plan to start charging for charging will prevent an adapter working for the leaf? No because the adaptor only works on Tesla destination chargers, not Tesla Superchargers. The former do not interrogate the car's VIN while the latter does.
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Post by gregleaf on Nov 22, 2016 18:50:55 GMT 11
If Tesla sold a Supercharger to CHAdeMO adaptor I would be the first in line to buy one regardless of cost. It would be such a game changer
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Post by Deleted on Nov 28, 2016 18:08:51 GMT 11
Took the plunge. Now chilye 16 amp cable is tesla / mennekes compliant.
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Post by stewartm on Nov 29, 2016 16:37:19 GMT 11
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Post by MDK on Nov 29, 2016 17:44:08 GMT 11
That's for North American / Japanese Tesla wall connectors - their Teslas have a proprietary socket which didn't have enough pins to support 3-phase power, so European/Hong Kong/Australian Teslas have a Mennekes-style socket, and hence Mennekes compatible* wall connector. * mostly compatible
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Post by stewartm on Nov 29, 2016 20:30:25 GMT 11
Yes absolutely correct, my mistake.
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Post by stewartm on Nov 29, 2016 23:20:05 GMT 11
Other interesting point on the telsa site for destination chargers. They say available to the public on some and patrons only on others. One could well assume that this means all public ev drivers, not just tesla. Reasonable assumption?
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Post by chuq on Nov 30, 2016 0:35:34 GMT 11
Other interesting point on the telsa site for destination chargers. They say available to the public on some and patrons only on others. One could well assume that this means all public ev drivers, not just tesla. Reasonable assumption? I think those comments are specifically in the context of Tesla owners. Of course some site staff will have absolutely no idea and won't really notice a Leaf charging, may notice but not think anything of it ("Oh, I guess 'Tesla' bought 'Leaf'"), even the managers/owners may not know or care. Some will have installed the DC for environmental reasons, some will have installed them to attract customers to their business. It will be different for every site.
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Post by 4wardthinking on Dec 1, 2016 9:38:38 GMT 11
I'm keen to hear peoples views on this. Is it ethical to suggest to host sites that they install one of these, with the intention of using it with a Leaf? How should a host site is approached: "You can install a J1772 charger at a cost of thousands, or you can install a Tesla destination charger at a cost of a couple of hundred." (Note sure of exact costs but surely the difference is significant and can be the difference between installing a charger ornot) Some sites, particularly local councils, may be unsure about installing HPWCs (as opposed to an open standard) since it may look like they are being elitist by exclusively supporting Teslas. So telling them that they can be used by other EV owners may be a good thing. It's also less ratepayers money being spent. How do you explain it to a host site but say "don't tell Tesla". They may feel like they are being fraudulent. I'd be happy making a donation to use such a facility and also happy to give priority to Teslas. I don't want to rip off Tesla, in fact I'm a Model 3 reservation holder. If I had such an adaptor tomorrow I'd probably only use this a dozen times before the Model 3 arrived. TESLA 3 owners have no "free TESLA" charging included in the purchase, unlike other models. Maybe you will have to do what LEAF owners have to do!.
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Post by 4wardthinking on Dec 1, 2016 9:46:32 GMT 11
Other interesting point on the telsa site for destination chargers. They say available to the public on some and patrons only on others. One could well assume that this means all public ev drivers, not just tesla. Reasonable assumption? I think those comments are specifically in the context of Tesla owners. Of course some site staff will have absolutely no idea and won't really notice a Leaf charging, may notice but not think anything of it ("Oh, I guess 'Tesla' bought 'Leaf'"), even the managers/owners may not know or care. Some will have installed the DC for environmental reasons, some will have installed them to attract customers to their business. It will be different for every site. Exactly. Forget the "I'm more important", that causes problems in the future. Imagine this distinct possibility. Nissan begin to put chargers across the country, and Tesla pull out. At this stage, and in the foreseeable future ALL EV owners are in the same Governmentally caused "what EV, what environmental problem... or what's in it for me". If any TESLA owner cares to take this up with me, there will be a discussion at least, and no one can dictate different. Maybe the great TESLA 3 isn't the same as the $260,000 item, so accept that people do offer charging for free. I do, no matter what incarnation of an EV it is. Air pollution is very important to consider too.
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Post by 4wardthinking on Dec 1, 2016 9:54:25 GMT 11
I wonder if the tesla plan to start charging for charging will prevent an adapter working for the leaf? No because the adaptor only works on Tesla destination chargers, not Tesla Superchargers. The former do not interrogate the car's VIN while the latter does. Very easy to work around!. Mits' and power companies evaluated this around 5 years ago, part of the excercise was Gov cash grabbing evaluating. It failed. I know, I was involved. Just imagine the black market dripping with code changers to charge without any Gov cash grabbing. The up-shot is how much would it cost to keep on changing the way it functions as revised code changers were produced. It takes less than 15 seconds to change it, and getting any kind of criminal label attached to it would cost a massive amount of time & resource. Btw. There are these "things" already available, but very little interest in them in reality.
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