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Post by jeffthewalker on Jun 5, 2016 11:33:09 GMT 11
I got the impression the manual writers didn't go out of their way to highlight the statement - quite the reverse... As for your pioneering journey, it is a reinvention of the grey nomad tradition - in a few years with steadily improving ev range and charging opportunities, there will be followers! I was particularly referring to pioneering as repeating the journey in a LEAF (or similarly range limited EVs). My LEAF odyssey stands out because it is difficult. Ride a bike around Australia, walk across it, climb a mountain, are all tasks undertaken ONLY because they are hard to do. In a few years (fewer than most are predicting) there will be no choice but to drive all electric anywhere. With the Bolt and Tesla 3 (and others) the only piece of the puzzle missing is the energy storage. Not only will there be incremental gains in mass and volume energy density, but expect a sideways step anytime. With all the universities and private companies of the world (and lots of crackpots on the side) investigating every possibility of energy storage, it is inevitable a new one (or more) will pop up. No one is saying there is a fundamental limit across the broad spread of possible technologies. Mr musk is waiting for it. He (sorta) said, "Show me a battery better than what we are using and we will go for it". I hope to be around in the 10 years (or less) that will see us driving riding in autonomous, self charging BEVs, all with the range according to their needs.
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Post by duncan on Jun 16, 2016 20:12:56 GMT 11
Thanks for the running updates, your trip has been absolutely awesome and a definite world first for distance across EV unfriendly territory, well done
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Post by jeffthewalker on Jun 16, 2016 21:09:07 GMT 11
Thanks for the running updates, your trip has been absolutely awesome and a definite world first for distance across EV unfriendly territory, well done :) It has been a pleasure. The trip and the reporting and the comments. Thanks. I am at Collie, about 200km south of Perth. Although I have only been here 2 weeks I have already traveled to Perth and back twice. I did have reasons to go, but having the WA Electric Highway means that I can do the trip in a little time over normal travel times. And I am off to Perth again this coming Saturday morning to have lunch with two of my (40+ YO) boys. I had one "EV issue" on the way back from Perth the first time. I had filled up at the Harvey fast charger and on the final leg to Collie a warning light came on the dash. It was the one of the orange car with an exclamation mark in the middle. The LEAF was going ok and I was only 20km from my destination at Collie when I noticed it so I "just" carried on. I have had a similar warning light in a few ICE cars and it meant to check things out or "re-boot" the computer(s), so I drove on and parked up. I arrived after dark and was in no hurry to find out the bad news. The next morning I checked and the warning light was still on. I plugged in to charge but, although I had the green EVSE light it would not start a charge. Hmmm, not just globe stuck on. I re-booted several times but no go. I phoned Moorooka Nissan (where I bought the LEAF) and spoke to John. I had leaned on him before I left Qld to "be there for me" if I needed some hand holding or spare part(s). He jumped into action and spoke to JA the LEAF man in the cavern where they service their fleet. He got back pretty well straight away, but the verdict was to get it to the nearest LEAF service centre. Right. Perth, 200km. 25km in the tank. The owner's manual said it was the "EV system" warning light. I decided to ask my good friend Mr Google if he had any ideas. As it turned out he did (surprise, surprise). It is a common problem. Just re-boot the car. Half a dozen times if necessary. Digging a little further into Google's diarrhoea of ideas there was a suggestion to disconnect the earth side of the 12V battery to give it a REAL reboot. Being a computer nerd from way back I reckoned that this was good advise. But, to be sure, to be sure, I phoned John back and asked him to get JA to ok the disconnect. I added that I would do it anyway regardless of the answer from JA. I held on and JA said "no probs, shouldn't do any harm. Might even fix the glitch". I did and it did!!!!! The "conversation" on Google was mainly around this fault, with certain fast chargers (Blink), and I remember that at Harvey, after the DCFC turned off at 80%, I plugged in again to get a top-up as I would be driving with the lights on and would rather travel at highway speeds if possible. So I put the whole warning light thing down to a DCFC/EVSE/LEAF glitch. I phoned John, gave him the good news and had a good sit down. My last trip to Perth (overnight Tuesday) was mainly to attend the AEVA branch meeting. 50 odd (well, some of them were odd) members and visitors were there including Matt (Nullarbor Tesla). Matt and I were invited to talk about our adventurous ways and we were very well received. I got several inquiries regarding my book (about my first walk) so I have made it available as a PDF download (sorta free) to read on electronic devices.
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Post by duncan on Jun 16, 2016 21:31:40 GMT 11
Umm yeah. Funny how Nissan might forget to mention it when offering you to check it for $200+, but pretty much any mechanic will have a scan tool that can read and reset error codes. In a high percentage of cases the error is a on off not a sign of a permanent failure so noting the code then resetting the light is a fair first step.
However....it can equally be a real issue so given your plans I suggest getting it scanned before you go much further, because it is equally likely to be a real problem that requires a repair (eg a charging system failure)
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Post by jeffthewalker on Jun 16, 2016 21:55:50 GMT 11
Umm yeah. Funny how Nissan might forget to mention it when offering you to check it for $200+, but pretty much any mechanic will have a scan tool that can read and reset error codes. In a high percentage of cases the error is a on off not a sign of a permanent failure so noting the code then resetting the light is a fair first step. However....it can equally be a real issue so given your plans I suggest getting it scanned before you go much further, because it is equally likely to be a real problem that requires a repair (eg a charging system failure) Yer right. And John (Moorooka Nissan) did tell me to get the scan done at my next service or better still while I am in Perth now, in case it was something more worrying. As you say "given my plans" it would be unwise not to.
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Post by rusdy on Jun 17, 2016 15:42:15 GMT 11
Thanks for the running updates, your trip has been absolutely awesome and a definite world first for distance across EV unfriendly territory, well done I did and it did!!!!! The "conversation" on Google was mainly around this fault, with certain fast chargers (Blink), and I remember that at Harvey, after the DCFC turned off at 80%, I plugged in again to get a top-up as I would be driving with the lights on and would rather travel at highway speeds if possible. So I put the whole warning light thing down to a DCFC/EVSE/LEAF glitch. I phoned John, gave him the good news and had a good sit down. Thanks from me too. These little things always handy to know!
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Post by jake on Jul 2, 2016 1:53:21 GMT 11
I've read about this problem somewhere before. If I recall correctly, it was due to the charging not falling within expected parameters. You will probably find you will have no more problems unless you visit the same charger again.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 6, 2016 20:09:27 GMT 11
Harvey had a whine near the ac mennekes plug when I was dc Charging i3 When ac plug was out of its socket
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Post by jeffthewalker on Jul 7, 2016 11:05:29 GMT 11
Harvey had a whine near the ac mennekes plug when I was dc Charging i3 When ac plug was out of its socket Thanks for the heads-up. My LEAF has been "on loan" to one of my Perth (also a nerd) sons. I take it back this coming Tuesday (prior to the AEVA UWA meeting) and will be needing the Harvey charger on Wednesday. Maybe it is time I organised a "Plan B" for these Perth/Collie trips.
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Post by jeffthewalker on Oct 8, 2016 14:32:16 GMT 11
I am on the road (again) driving from Perth to Darwin. The minor glitch in my original plan to stay in Perth for the month of June was extended and extended again. When I did a serious check on the probably future, I found that the equipment we have been waiting on from Malaya will be at least another month. Armed with this info, I figured I could drive to Darwin, where I have a daughter and family, and then make a decision whether to fly back to Perth for a month or, if there was further delay, then drive on to Sydney. As I have already conquered the Nullarbor charging from power points almost all the way (several uses of a $399 Aldi generator) I thought I would approach this (Perth/Darwin) as more of a sprint than an endurance event. The $399 generator died unceremoniously when I was trying for a convenient top-up and Aldi refunded me in full after I had the generator assessed at an Aldi authorised service shop. Stewartm, from SE Queensland and a regular contributor to the OzLEAF forum, jumped in when I started asking about purchasing a 15A EVSE. Stewart offered to loan me a JuiceBox which I accepted and he posted it to me in Collie. Many thank yous to Stewart and I will definitely be calling in as I cruise past sometime in the next few months. This will cut my daytime charge, usually at a caravan park, from 6-8 hours down to 4-5 hours. Also, in the spirit of the new "sprint" adventure, I looked for a new generator that could handle a constant draw of 15A. I went straight for a Honda as I was intending to use it a lot and was more after reliability than low price. And I expect to resell it when I get back and hopefully recover most of my outlay. When I attempted to lift (let alone carry) a 3kVA genny it was beyond my aging bod. But, Craig, of Armadale Mower World introduced me to two 2kVA Honda gennys that could be "paralleled up" to provide the 15A continuous required. Craig, by the way, drove/rode one of his zero turn mowers around Australia raising awareness and funds for his favourite charities. A kindred spirit. He easily sold me the pair of gennys and gave me a price that would lessen the cost burden once I sold them. I/we ran them up on site for over an hour and I am confident they will go the distance. They fit nicely in the boot and I am keeping the boxes (with my clothes etc. in them) to help with the eventual resale. I met with Richard in Perth who recently completed his Tesla anticlockwise tour around Oz. He (and Rob & Rob as far as Broome) have established 3 phase power for charging at spots along the way. So that I could take advantage of this pioneering work I made up a couple of adapters to take a single phase 240V off a 3 phase (5 pin) socket. All of the above will allow me to (theoretically) be either driving or charging and thereby cut my total time down considerably. I say theoretically as I expect to sleep while charging with the generators. Across the Nullarbor, I could not arrive at a 240V power point before a civilised time in the morning so I mainly stayed overnight at a caravan park or similar. Here's a pic of the two genny setup with the JuiceBox 15A EVSE.
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Post by jeffthewalker on Oct 9, 2016 22:37:55 GMT 11
It is Sunday (9/10) evening and I am sitting at the rear of the Nanutarra Roadhouse putting in a 3 hour charge. I will refill the generators around 9:30pm as they close for the night and I will head off to Fortesque River Roadhouse. I expect to be in Broome at the end of the week. I have been hypermiling as I did a spreadsheet to cover 40 - 100km/hr in 10km/hr steps and calculated the average speed taking into consideration the charging time as well as the travel time. Interesting. And there are a few shots of the dash display showing the economy I can get when I hypermile (travel at 50km/hr). One shows a GOM of 200km:-) and the other shows 0.09kWh/km.
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Post by jeffthewalker on Oct 19, 2016 14:02:03 GMT 11
Having lived in Broome over 30 years ago (and for a period of 15 years), I didn't mind too much when I got a tech screw into one of my Yokohama tyres. The tyre was damaged beyond repair, and it wouldn't take a tube, so I have had to wait 5 days for a replacement to come from Perth. Steve and Sarah at Tumbi Tyres and More, who arranged the Yokohamas in the first place, organised for the replacement from Perth. Thanks guys, still looking after me from afar. Between Nanuturra Roadhouse and Broome, I stayed a few times at caravan parks and used the generator gear the rest of the time. I can cover nearly 300km after setting off with a full charge and full fuel for the genset(s). Each of the generators holds 4l and I have a 10l gerry "can". After Port Hedland I got into the hot stuff and 40deg was a daily temp. While in Broome, I have bought an extra 10l container and it will allow me to run the air conditioner and still get the same range. As I was approaching Pardoo Roadhouse I was getting close to empty with 35km to go. There was a gravel road to Pardoo Station (now also a caravan park) but no distance given on the sign. Looking on the map it was about 12km to I decided to give it a go. I made it easily and stayed for a full day charge for $15. It was a nice place but I think that will be my last dirt road. At Pardoo Roadhouse, they had no unleaded petrol, and I had 120 to go to get to Sandfire Roadhouse. They let me charge (for nothing) at one of their powered sites and I had some petrol. I made it ok to Sandfire. In Broome, I have been looked after by the guys in the Men's Shed and I have been delighted to find plenty of memories to bring back the "good old days". In particular, I have had a great reunion with Jim, who was my apprentice way back when. The Men's shed organised an interview with the local ABC radio station and that can be seen on my Facebook page. And I am still breaking personal records for energy economy. Photo below shows a regional ranking of 6th. At the end of one day's drive I read 0.08kWh/km. After a meetup with Dave in his sparkling white Tesla (we are hoping for an ABC interview for two EVs in town at the same time) I will he heading of for Darwin.
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Post by EVangelist on Oct 19, 2016 23:06:50 GMT 11
Never seen a GOM of 200 before! And with 11 bars! Well done.
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Post by 4wardthinking on Oct 20, 2016 11:08:55 GMT 11
Still. 80%on ours with 2 bars missing.
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Post by jeffthewalker on Oct 22, 2016 21:03:51 GMT 11
Now in Kununurra charging up at the Showgrounds. Richard in his Tesla organised this one so easy for me to follow in his footsteps.
Broome to here is a bloody long way. I have done the drive several times before but doing it in the LEAF is certainly a challenge. I don't see anyone else being silly enough to do it any time soon. Some daytime temperatures are at or very near 40deg and I have the air con off to get maximum range. Sometimes, when I am on a day charge in a caravan park I sit in the car with the air con going. Very nice. It just takes (a lot) longer to charge.
There has been a little bit of rain but only annoying when I am generator charging and no cover. I will be in Darwin in three or four days. When I eventually leave Darwin, I expect the wet season will be well and truly started. I am not sure what I will do, as I am mostly generator charging in roadside stopping ares.
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Post by stewartm on Oct 22, 2016 21:24:08 GMT 11
Yes, a month earlier may have been easier, although I have a friend who,lives up there and she said that it was 40 degrees a month back.
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Post by richardmcn on Oct 30, 2016 8:18:42 GMT 11
Now in Kununurra charging up at the Showgrounds. Richard in his Tesla organised this one so easy for me to follow in his footsteps. Broome to here is a bloody long way. I have done the drive several times before but doing it in the LEAF is certainly a challenge. I don't see anyone else being silly enough to do it any time soon. Some daytime temperatures are at or very near 40deg and I have the air con off to get maximum range. Sometimes, when I am on a day charge in a caravan park I sit in the car with the air con going. Very nice. It just takes (a lot) longer to charge. There has been a little bit of rain but only annoying when I am generator charging and no cover. I will be in Darwin in three or four days. When I eventually leave Darwin, I expect the wet season will be well and truly started. I am not sure what I will do, as I am mostly generator charging in roadside stopping ares. Hey Jeff I guess you are in Darwin by now. Good on you. Perth to Darwin is 1/3 of the way round-Oz and you have done it in quick time with zero fuss. Hooray! Don't forget to buy gum boots in Darwin!
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Post by jeffthewalker on Oct 31, 2016 18:05:44 GMT 11
Leaving Darwin tomorrow after nearly a week here catching up with my daughter and her family. I called in to the Charles Darwin Uni where there is a 6 bay L2 charging "shed" and had a good chat with the facilities admin guy. I also managed to get an interview on the Uni based FM radio station. While in the charging station my LEAF was accompanied by several Outlanders, a LEAF, and a Holden Commodore. At one time, all 6 bays were full. The shed roof has 54 X 250W solar panels, grid connected, which is a nice amount. Tomorrow morning, I will do another Interview on ABC radio which was arranged with Peter Donovan who is the MTA rep in the Territory. On the way to Sydney, my official finishing place, I will be going through Katherine, Mt Isa, Emerald, Gympie (visit a friend), Brisbane and the Gold Coast.
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Post by jeffthewalker on Oct 31, 2016 18:09:51 GMT 11
Hey Jeff I guess you are in Darwin by now. Good on you. Perth to Darwin is 1/3 of the way round-Oz and you have done it in quick time with zero fuss. Hooray! Don't forget to buy gum boots in Darwin! Thanks Richard. On the last leg now.
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Post by Feng on Oct 31, 2016 18:11:30 GMT 11
Did you have a particular place in mind to finish in Sydney?
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Post by jeffthewalker on Nov 1, 2016 8:47:32 GMT 11
Did you have a particular place in mind to finish in Sydney? It will be at the NETS building at the Westmead Children's Hospital. No date arranged yet. Hang on. I have heard a whisper that they will be moving. I will get back to the group on that. I think a gathering of EVs (specially LEAFs) would be a good thing.
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Post by jeffthewalker on Nov 3, 2016 8:42:45 GMT 11
Did you have a particular place in mind to finish in Sydney? The finishing line will be at the NETS building at the Westmead Children's Hospital. No date arranged yet. Hang on. I have heard a whisper that they will be moving. I will get back to the group on that. I think a gathering of EVs (specially LEAFs) would be a good thing. Just checked the location for NETS NSW. They will be moving to Bankstown in January 2017, so I will be finishing up at the Children's Hospital, Westmead. Not sure of the date yet but I will set a date a week or two ahead of my arrival. I will check with Dr. Andrew Berry for a best day of the week and time. It will (most probably) be in the last week in November.
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Post by jeffthewalker on Nov 3, 2016 9:31:54 GMT 11
I got away from Darwin on Tuesday afternoon having done the ABC radio interview at 10.30am. I went back to Karen's place to repack the car and replace the 30km of range I used up going into town. Leaving Darwin with a full tank, I got to Alligator River showgrounds for a day (evening) charge for $10 where I was welcomed back after having charged there a week before (pic below). I left there at 9.30pm and arrived at Pine Creek around midnight. Although I was looking forward to another stay at the Lazy Lizard general store/caravan park, it was definitely the wrong time to ring the bell. I went a few kms out of town and set up the genny and fell asleep. Up at (pre)dawn at the end of the charge, I drove on to Katherine only to be there too early (5.30am) to settle in to the showground for a morning charge. RichardM, of Tesla anti-clockwise around Oz fame, had established this charging place several months earlier. So I went through town and found a row of shady trees and settled in for a 4 hour genny charge. To my surprise, this got me into Mataranka for lunch to discover that I had traveled 420km in 24 hours. The generator has allowed me to be either driving or charging and not having to wait for a charging location to be open for business. By chance, I picked the "Territory Manor" caravan park (it was the closest to town) which turned out to be one of the best that Australia has to offer. It is all about the staff who, in this case, could not have done more for me. I stayed for lunch and they gave me the charge and shower gratis. As good as the generator is for time-practical purposes, it is certainly more pleasurable to charge in the comfort (quiet with shade) of a caravan park and be able to visit the associated shop/restaurant etc. and walk around with interesting things to look at (birds, snakes in cages). And each time I use the generator, there is the cost of the fuel (about $10 per 100km), the setting up and pulling down, and the refueling the gennies and 10l container. After Mataranka I got to the Larramah pub (famous for being quirky) (pic below) in the late afternoon for another caravan park charge (again complimentary). When I left at 10pm, after a nap, I only drove for an hour or so and pulled over for some further sleep. No genny charge, too (tired and) lazy, and plenty of charge to get to the Hi-Way Inn at Daly Waters. I rolled into the Hi-Way Inn at 5.30am beating the opening time of 6am. This place is co-owned with the Territory Manor caravan park back at Mataranka and equally as hospitable where I have just had a fully breakky in air conditioned comfort (41C yesterday) and happy to stay in the restaurant to write up a decent (for a change) entry for the OzLEAF forum:-). As an aside, I visited my daughter Karen in Darwin 3 years ago and also stayed on a cattle station at Mt McMinn for several weeks. I did my usual handyman stuff there after having been recommended by my mate Chris from Nannup. From this previous excursion into the "Territory", I was familiar with all (most) of the watering holes (pubs).
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Post by jeffthewalker on Nov 6, 2016 9:28:50 GMT 11
Now in Mt Isa. I arrived at 7am and too early for any of the caravan parks. RichardM, of Tesla round Oz fame, had organised the council showgrounds but I am also too early for them and it is Sunday.
I have found a bit of shade just out of town (still in phone range) on the way to Cloncurry where I have set up for a generator charge for 4 hours.
I have stopped at lots of places since the Hy-way Inn, Dunmarra, Elliot, Renner Springs and Threeways all on the Stuaart Highway.
Then "chuck a leftie" to the Barkly Homestead Roadhouse (great spot, very EV friendly, thanks to RichardM), Camooweal and now Mt Isa.
Now looking like an arrival back in Sydney in the last week of this month. Looking forward to it.
For some unknown reason, I can't access my phone photos from the computer. I'll try a follow up post when/if I work it out.
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Post by richardmcn on Nov 6, 2016 17:59:20 GMT 11
Hey Jeff looks like you have quite a few route options from this point ... > Normanton to Cairns? > Townsville direct? > Longreach to Rocky? Where will you head???
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Post by jeffthewalker on Nov 9, 2016 18:01:03 GMT 11
The route chosen from Mt Isa to Sydney was always going to be Cloncurry, Emerald, Rockhampton, Gympie, Brisbane, Beaudesert, Goldcoast, Newcastle and Sydney.
Phew. Why that way? I wanted to suss out Sapphire, Rubyvale, Emerald etc., as I have never been there and I want to go there one day for several months (long story).
Then Rockhampton as I have a friend in Emu Park whose place a can't go past (or he would talk about me). As it turns out, he is in Western Australia and won't be back for another week or two so I will miss him. We will catch up somewhere along the track as he drives back.
Gympie, as Roger lives there and he (and his radio club) were my daily HF radio contacts on both my walks. Another "can't go past".
In Brisbane I am a member of the Australian Electrical Vehicle Association (AEVA) and I will contact them for a possible meet-up as I drive through.
I will drop in at "home" and dump some of the winter clothing and other baggage that I have carted half way around Oz and say hello to my neighbours who I haven't seen for six months.
Brother Bill lives in Stockton, Newcastle and I always call in a stay at least one night. Bill is my "anchor man" while I wander around and we stay in touch almost daily.
Sydney NETS headquarters at Westmead Children's Hospital is my "official" finishing point as that is where I started from. While in Sydney I will visit relies and friends before heading back to Beaudesert for a well deserved rest:-).
All of that is possible in about 7 days even allowing for smelling some roses along the way.
I zipped through Longreach and Barcaldine, generator charging as I went, as the time of day did not suit calling in. I was getting close to Jericho and low on charge and saw a cattle property beside the road with three large (10kW) solar arrays set up with full tracking. One was facing the wrong way so I was compelled to drop in to buy some clean juice. I had an interesting stay for 5 hours and as they are having problems getting their broken tracker fixed (supplier went bust), I am in the loop to help if I can. It is SMA inverters and good quality controllers so it should be fixable somehow.
I called into the Alpha showgrounds and plugged into caravan type socket and charged up. I asked a council worker how I could contact at the shire office and he just told me to plug in. This happens a lot in small towns. I think showgrounds will be the obvious way for local shires to support casual charging for EVs.
I have a contact in Sapphire so I was able to charge at a 15A outlet.
I am having problems getting my phone photos to come up on my computer so no pics for now.
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Post by stewartm on Nov 9, 2016 21:00:26 GMT 11
Hi Jeff, the new Noosa fast charger is up and running there, free to use. Gympie to Noosa is 66 km so an easy run. Noosa to Brisbane is 144km, so you will need a top up. I would suggest Caboolture Showgrounds where there is an agreement to charge for a small fee. You are welcome to use my 15 amp Siemens wall unit at Maroochydore if that suits, that then gives 95km to Brisbane.
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Post by jeffthewalker on Nov 10, 2016 9:48:59 GMT 11
Hi Jeff, the new Noosa fast charger is up and running there, free to use. Gympie to Noosa is 66 km so an easy run. Noosa to Brisbane is 144km, so you will need a top up. I would suggest Caboolture Showgrounds where there is an agreement to charge for a small fee. You are welcome to use my 15 amp Siemens wall unit at Maroochydore if that suits, that then gives 95km to Brisbane. Stew I will definitely be calling in to your place as I want to say a big thanks and give you some dollars. I will also go to the DCFC at Noosa to check it out.
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Post by stewartm on Nov 10, 2016 20:40:33 GMT 11
No dollars, give them to NETS. As a paramedic of 37 years, i spent many of them flying in fixed and rotary wing. I have known of Dr Andrew Berry and his work there for over 20 years. Chatted with him at many Aeromedical conferences over many years. Happy to have a coffee ☕️
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Post by richardmcn on Nov 10, 2016 21:06:33 GMT 11
ETA Westmead yet?
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