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Post by Jim Hare on Mar 21, 2013 9:08:41 GMT 11
Heh, now we are not only not paying the petrol stations, we will sabotage them from the inside out!
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Post by David on Jun 29, 2013 14:38:57 GMT 11
Back to the original purpose of this thread. At the risk of bragging, I have just gone past 17,000Km. was wondering if anyone else has done more Km than that. About to head overseas for 3 weeks for some sun and warmth. should give you all a chance to catch up!!!
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Post by Jim Hare on Jun 29, 2013 15:25:02 GMT 11
Not a chance from me! Think I'm about 1/2 of that. Need to get out there more! Have a great trip. Wouldn't mind escaping this rain and cold myself.
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Post by Phoebe on Jun 29, 2013 16:43:15 GMT 11
Take more than that for me to catch up, David! I've only done 1,700kms and only do 24kms a week on a regular basis ;D
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Post by duncan on Jun 29, 2013 16:50:57 GMT 11
You're killing us....we're at about 5000. Do you still have 12 bars on the battery?
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Post by David on Jun 29, 2013 18:18:44 GMT 11
12 bars, although I get the sense that the 12th bar disappears earlier than it used to. In previous posts I have mentioned that my range although slightly less than originally is still reliably 120-140km. It seems to me that it dropped about 5% at about the 5000km mark and has been fairly steady since then. I picked up my car on the 3rd of October 2012 and expect to do the 20000 km service a bit before the year is up
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Post by leafboi on Jun 29, 2013 20:36:45 GMT 11
I'm at 14,000kms now. Since Dec 21st. I don't think I've noticed any range decreases. But I always watch the capacity bars. Too soon to lose one anyway.
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Post by Brian on Jul 1, 2013 0:59:02 GMT 11
We are only at 7,200 kms after eleven and a half months, but still happy as Larry with the car.
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Post by David on Jul 19, 2013 10:23:53 GMT 11
Slightly off topic, I was away for 21/2 weeks. I had charged to 100% day before I left, but didn't end up using the car before I left, so it stayed fully charged. On my return, it seems to have the same range I would expect from a full charge, so no loss in 18 days. Not sure how long it would take for it to lose charge unused Needless to say, still loving it. So smooth....
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Post by Phoebe on Jul 19, 2013 12:10:56 GMT 11
Interesting to hear you lost nothing in charge over 18 days, David. So far I've never had to leave mine more than 5 days without use.
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Post by Feng on Jul 19, 2013 12:39:00 GMT 11
Dave, you know leaving it on full charge for extended periods isn't meant to be good for the battery? Information overload here: www.mynissanleaf.com/wiki/index.php?title=Battery_Capacity_LossSorry if it's something you already know, but just in case you didn't it's worth knowing. 30% is the ideal level for storage.
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Post by Phoebe on Jul 19, 2013 13:32:54 GMT 11
Dave, you know leaving it on full charge for extended periods isn't meant to be good for the battery? Information overload here: www.mynissanleaf.com/wiki/index.php?title=Battery_Capacity_LossSorry if it's something you already know, but just in case you didn't it's worth knowing. 30% is the ideal level for storage. Can't get this page, Feng. Get this message 'The requested page title was invalid, empty, or an incorrectly linked inter-language or inter-wiki title. It may contain one or more characters which cannot be used in titles. '
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Post by Feng on Jul 19, 2013 13:34:57 GMT 11
Thanks Phoebe, fixed it. Cut and paste gone wrong.
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Post by Phoebe on Jul 19, 2013 14:04:34 GMT 11
Thanks Phoebe, fixed it. Cut and paste gone wrong. That's better
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Post by David on Jul 20, 2013 19:05:56 GMT 11
Without reading the link Feng, I was aware of that and I charged it the day before I traveled and my flight was at 10pm. I fully expected to be driving it the day of travel, but as things turned out, I didn't. So I had planned not to leave it full, but that's what happened. I have driven 112km since getting back with 20 left on the estimator, so about the usual range. Got away with it!
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Post by Feng on Jul 20, 2013 21:24:28 GMT 11
I hope I didn't cause any offense with what I said, being a relative newbie here I didn't want to come off sounding like a know it all. It was said with best intentions and I'll apologise if there was any misunderstanding!
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Post by David on Jul 22, 2013 8:53:11 GMT 11
How could I take offense from a fellow Bexleyite! for a newbie, you do know it all and your enthusiasm for EVs is infectious. Always enjoy reading your posts especially the ones about going up to Katoomba. Might try that one day.
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Post by Feng on Jul 22, 2013 17:41:13 GMT 11
Thanks for your kind words David! Two months ago the LEAF wasn't even on my radar when car shopping, suddenly it has become a bit of an obsession!
Visiting Katoomba in a LEAF is definitely a great way to spend a day. I can highly recommend it if you don't mind an early start!
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Post by lesmando24 on Aug 4, 2013 10:55:38 GMT 11
Hello, I don't do 100% charges as I am lucky to be able to travel everywhere on 80%. My maximum range on 80% is 133km (all urban driving around the redlands, which is fairly flat, in summer). My normal is 115 - 120km. Tho, due to living in Queensland, I don't have to use the heater and I only use aircon when it gets above 28 degrees C (I found this last summer - I assume it is due to the lack of heat creeping in from the engine bay, compared to my old corolla). I have some maps of trips I do on a regular basis on my blog ( lesmando24.blogspot.com.au ). I have almost done 30,000km, but due to being winter, I cannot tell how much battery I have lost (somedays I loose up to 10km in winter - about 1 bar). I commute 80km on a normal day. Once I week I have to go over large hills for volleyball - I travel 110km and have about 8-5kms left (or --- some days). If you are suddenly loosing heaps of range, it will probably be your right foot (or the heater). Keep an eye on your rainbow gauge (or whatever the gauge above the tree is called). Try to keep it on full, or no more than 3 bars lost (use 3 power bubbles on takeoff, 5 if you are on a hill). Remember to gently lift on the accelerator when the leaf increases output to keep acceleration even (works on petrol cars too). Also, keep to the speed limits. On the freeway, I do a little less than the speed limit (so 90-95 instead of 100km/h). Happy Motoring, Les
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Post by Jim Hare on Aug 5, 2013 10:43:21 GMT 11
Welcome Les, good to have you here!
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Post by duncan on Aug 5, 2013 19:57:14 GMT 11
Wow that is a lot of driving each day, I'll be you are miles ahead I'd be interested to see the results of the battery health test for your car as it is reasonably new but high klm
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Post by lesmando24 on Aug 6, 2013 23:49:05 GMT 11
Had the 30,000km service done today ($86.25). Battery capacity is 12 bars and I got 5 stars for all the categories.
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Post by Jim Hare on Aug 7, 2013 8:43:57 GMT 11
Fantastic! And don't you just love $89 services instead of $450 services!
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Post by David on Aug 7, 2013 10:03:09 GMT 11
Until you joined, I was leading the field. Thanks a lot!!! I am close to my 20K service, but great to hear that at 30K battery is still performing well
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Post by marty on Aug 8, 2013 23:47:38 GMT 11
Dave, you know leaving it on full charge for extended periods isn't meant to be good for the battery? Information overload here: www.mynissanleaf.com/wiki/index.php?title=Battery_Capacity_LossSorry if it's something you already know, but just in case you didn't it's worth knowing. 30% is the ideal level for storage. So according to the chart that's in there the battery is likely to not last longer than 11 years n Melbourne? Did anybody dared to ask their service department how much a new battery pack is?
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Post by Feng on Aug 9, 2013 0:05:03 GMT 11
So according to the chart that's in there the battery is likely to not last longer than 11 years n Melbourne? Did anybody dared to ask their service department how much a new battery pack is? As far as I know it doesn't just die after a decade but the capacity declines to 70% which Nissan considers end of life (that's still over 100km range which is plenty for some). When I asked about the battery while test driving it I got told three things which skirted the issue of price: The battery won't be put to complete waste, there's supposedly plans to reuse them to power homes and offset peak electricity. The entire pack won't go bad, the worst affected cells could be replaced (still sounds pricey!) or regenerated/rejuvenated (don't remember the exact word and don't know if it's a real thing or not). Most important of all, battery tech is always changing and things can be so different in a decade, it's hard to give a price since it'll be different by the time you need one. My worst case scenario mentioned elsewhere is to try to source a pack from a wrecker overseas since I'm reasoning they're more common and therefore cheaper than anything Nissan will try to sell me here!
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Post by duncan on Aug 9, 2013 8:45:25 GMT 11
Yep I also asked and they did everything possible to avoid answering the question. My main concern was around warranty, to understand what is "normal" loss and what is abnormal. In the end after multiple asks they would not answer, basically I could take it or leave it. Interestingly the workshop manual does include a procedure to check battery health, and it defines a faulty battery unit (there are 96) as one with less than 3.712mV. The voltage is easily checked by a consult3 diagnostic computer (all Nissan dealers and good aftermarket places have them) or by a $20 ebay ODB2 Bluetooth dongle and a free android app. ozleaf.proboards.com/index.cgi?action=display&board=everything&thread=110&page=1
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Post by Jim Hare on Aug 9, 2013 9:18:03 GMT 11
I think they did the right thing by avoiding the question because in my opinion it's the wrong question to be asking. This is new technology, which is going to change very very quickly. Batteries are the new priority for R&D, and there are breakthroughs happening constantly. In seven years I'm expecting things to be completely different. We'll probably go 600KMs on a battery that takes 15 minutes to recharge, that will cost under $2,000. Think of a ten year old computer, TV or cell phone. When I got my last iPhone I didn't ask Apple if I could still use it in ten years because I know I won't want to. There will be something better, cheaper and more evolved. I think our main priority should be 100% on making sure our current batteries get us over the hump, which in my opinion is 4-6 years. By then we will be lured to something new, be it a battery replacement for the LEAF or a hover car. I want that hover car!
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Post by duncan on Aug 9, 2013 9:51:11 GMT 11
Sorry mate but I disagree. Both environmentally and financially, buying a new car is a big commitment. I am very uncomfortable with the view that it should be thrown into landfill in 10 years time. PS I do agree about the hover car though
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Post by David on Aug 9, 2013 13:40:31 GMT 11
Sorry mate (Duncan that is) I agree with mate (Jim) on this one I recently found a mob that will take any of your e waste and recycle it I am sure and have stated somewhere on this forum that battery technology will be the next leap and we will be upgrading our battery (our choice whether we upgrade the whole car or not) in the next few year. I once predicted the end of digging up fossil fuels to be 2030 and I stick by that. I include with that all fossil fuels, ie all our electricity and all our travel
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