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Post by richardh on Mar 26, 2015 23:21:21 GMT 11
Hi All, Just wanting to get ideas about replacement tyres for the original Bridgestone Ecopias. I'm looking for something that has at least the same economy and quietness, but maybe with better performance/handling? Any suggestions or comments appreciated.
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Post by markrmarkr on Mar 30, 2015 20:32:21 GMT 11
Hi All, Just wanting to get ideas about replacement tyres for the original Bridgestone Ecopias. I'm looking for something that has at least the same economy and quietness, but maybe with better performance/handling? Any suggestions or comments appreciated. Here is a thread nismo-lmx6 which should tell you everything you wanted to know. Mark
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Post by richardh on Mar 30, 2015 22:38:22 GMT 11
Thanks Mark!
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Post by empowerrepower on Mar 31, 2015 22:38:50 GMT 11
Hi All, Just wanting to get ideas about replacement tyres for the original Bridgestone Ecopias. I'm looking for something that has at least the same economy and quietness, but maybe with better performance/handling? Any suggestions or comments appreciated. Here is a thread nismo-lmx6 which should tell you everything you wanted to know. Mark Those are very stylish wheels, but replacing wheels might be a bit more expense than some want to go to. Perhaps no-one on the list has yet tried different tyres with the existing Leaf wheels, but it would be good to share once someone has made a switch. Nobody sounds particularly wrapped with the existing tyres.
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Post by hieronymous on Apr 1, 2015 12:43:41 GMT 11
Hi All, Just wanting to get ideas about replacement tyres for the original Bridgestone Ecopias. I'm looking for something that has at least the same economy and quietness, but maybe with better performance/handling? Any suggestions or comments appreciated. I recommend the Michelin Primacy 3 ST - I am intending to move to these in the near future. Have used mainly Michelin tyres since I started driving, and have never been disappointed, or switched to another brand. See this site, and this review. The European version is a Primacy 3; the tyre sold here is an ST (Silence Tuned), and was developed in Thailand for our markets (and tested there by TopGear).
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Post by lesmando24 on Apr 2, 2016 19:48:59 GMT 11
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Post by unclewoja on Aug 15, 2016 17:46:24 GMT 11
Hi All, Just wanting to get ideas about replacement tyres for the original Bridgestone Ecopias. I'm looking for something that has at least the same economy and quietness, but maybe with better performance/handling? Any suggestions or comments appreciated. I recommend the Michelin Primacy 3 ST - I am intending to move to these in the near future. Have used mainly Michelin tyres since I started driving, and have never been disappointed, or switched to another brand. See this site, and this review. The European version is a Primacy 3; the tyre sold here is an ST (Silence Tuned), and was developed in Thailand for our markets (and tested there by TopGear). Have you replaced the Bridgestones with the Michelins yet and if so, how do they go? My fronts are almost gone after ~25,000km. I live in a hilly area... lots of tight turns, off camber turns, lots of roundabouts and heaps of those stupid traffic islands to slow you down in residential streets. In other words, anything that can be murder on a set of tyres. I've got on particular turn on my way to and from work that about 140 degrees, off camber, and up a gradient of about 25%, oh, and to get into work every day, there's a u-turn, down a gradient, off-camber, with ruts in all three lanes from the trucks. The car was an ex demo with ~8,000km on it when I bought it and the tyres were about 40% down on tread even then.
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Post by hieronymous on Aug 15, 2016 18:33:24 GMT 11
Stayed with the OEM Ecopias. Tyre choice is a popular topic on Leaf forums, and no-one has come up with a better choice for max. range. Also recommended for quietness.
Michelins are rated more than most for improved handling, but have worse economy i.e. range. So my take is that, given the Leaf range at best being a bit tight, better to stick to the best LRR tyres i.e. the Bridgestone Ecopias.
Also, the stock 36/36 psi is way under-inflated, especially for your sort of roads; you'll get lots of shoulder wear. My Leaf runs at 42/42 psi, and feels like a different car, tight, responsive, and dead-even wear.
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Post by leafboi on Aug 15, 2016 23:02:19 GMT 11
Just on tyres, got a puncture, 84,000km on the clock and the tyre shop wouldn't repair it. I was just hopeful they wouldn't notice it was low on tread. But anyway I got one new tyre, haha. And I replaced the OEM ecopica EP150 with an EP100. I was assured it isn't that different. Here is hoping. I'll probably get one more replaced in the next few weeks and rotate them to the front for better driving grip. Hopefully they don't affect the already limited range.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 16, 2016 8:34:17 GMT 11
What about the bluearth Yokohamas that Jeff Johnson is using for his round Australia trip?
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Post by unclewoja on Aug 16, 2016 12:12:05 GMT 11
Stayed with the OEM Ecopias. Tyre choice is a popular topic on Leaf forums, and no-one has come up with a better choice for max. range. Also recommended for quietness. Michelins are rated more than most for improved handling, but have worse economy i.e. range. So my take is that, given the Leaf range at best being a bit tight, better to stick to the best LRR tyres i.e. the Bridgestone Ecopias. Also, the stock 36/36 psi is way under-inflated, especially for your sort of roads; you'll get lots of shoulder wear. My Leaf runs at 42/42 psi, and feels like a different car, tight, responsive, and dead-even wear. I'm running 48/48. Ride is a bit harsh but compared to the POS Falcon I had before it's still miles better. Shoulders are where my tyres are suffering at the moment. I recently put the Yoko AE50's on my wife's car and she's reported an increase of almost 25% range (Little Toyota Yaris) but that had no-name Chinese tyres on it from the car dealer. They seem to be a VERY quiet tyre. Might do some research on the AE-01. I have a severe aversion to buying OEM tyres. I have never replaced my tyres with OEM and I have never been disappointed.
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Post by iamlsd on Aug 17, 2016 15:04:23 GMT 11
I got the originals tyres replaced recently $145 each which didn't seem to bad. Coming up to 3 years and the tread was still ok but teaching my daughter to drive had put a few chunks out of the side walls . I went through the local Nissan (Unley) dealer as one of the service staff there has been through the Leaf support training and is excellent. The other bloke always seemed grumpy for other services and didn't seem to like the Leaf but seemed a bit cheerier when I got the tyres and windscreen wipers done. I know the $87 service cost for every second service must annoy them but hopefully they'll be cheerier when I get other stuff done. I've asked them if they would do a tow bar but not supported so they won't do it. Will have to re-read the towing with a leaf thread and find a good place in Adelaide to do it.
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Post by lesmando24 on Aug 18, 2016 19:37:34 GMT 11
They love LEAF servicing, $87 for 15 minutes work is awesome
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Post by 4wardthinking on Aug 21, 2016 9:03:11 GMT 11
Hi All, Just wanting to get ideas about replacement tyres for the original Bridgestone Ecopias. I'm looking for something that has at least the same economy and quietness, but maybe with better performance/handling? Any suggestions or comments appreciated. I recommend the Michelin Primacy 3 ST - I am intending to move to these in the near future. Have used mainly Michelin tyres since I started driving, and have never been disappointed, or switched to another brand. See this site, and this review. The European version is a Primacy 3; the tyre sold here is an ST (Silence Tuned), and was developed in Thailand for our markets (and tested there by TopGear). We had a full set of Michelin XM 2+ Eco tyres on the 2006 iTech Prius. I noted one morning the tyres were "chunking". It's where pieces of tread just come off, leaving the tyre like the tread has had chunks of it torn off. I changed them, and all others to Ecopia 100's on the other Hybrids at the time. I took it up with Michelin, only to be told the tyres were beyond 3 years old, so no more said. They had 6.5mm across the tread, but bits missing, and done 80,000kms. It appears that no matter how much wear is on the tyre, the caveat demptor is age. Worn or not, you should change them!. I decided Michelin would never adorn my vehicles ever again, as the tech rep was so matter of fact about it all. Bridgestone offer a great deal on 3 for 4, have great grip, wear nicely, and improved the certified journey by 0.2L/100km. First thing I did was to put a set on the LEAF, and noticed improvements across all the points. I got them fitted at Campbelltown Bridgestone centre. Price, customer service, and all questions politely answered. Now the two Prii & LEAF are all Ecopias. The question often asked is road noise. We have no issues, just other road noise seems to be more obvious now!.
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Post by quaternary on Aug 30, 2016 9:21:22 GMT 11
Stayed with the OEM Ecopias. Hi hieronymous, did you stick with the Ecopias EP150s? Did you consider the other Ecopias like the EP100 or the PZX which don't have the same price premium?
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Post by 4wardthinking on Aug 30, 2016 12:11:53 GMT 11
Just some info you may wish to consider. The EP150 is superseded by the EP100. I note better figures on the 100's with respect to the 150's. Bridgestone did! Manufacture a ' more' efficient one aparrently, but it was recently withdrawn, the Bridgestone tech said they had problems with un-even wear in the tread middle. They said under use, it was rounding out too far. I wanted them having read the blah around, so settled for the tried across four Eco vehicles EP100.
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Post by hieronymous on Aug 30, 2016 15:16:17 GMT 11
Stayed with the OEM Ecopias. Hi hieronymous, did you stick with the Ecopias EP150s? Did you consider the other Ecopias like the EP100 or the PZX which don't have the same price premium? Yup, the EP150's - I run them at 42/42 and they give me complete confidence. I have always stayed with OEM tyres unless there is clearly a better choice available, but I can't fault these with my (conservative) driving. The EP150's look like they're on runout, but my local Bridgestone shop said there are still a few available. They can't find any EP100 size to fit the Gen1 Leaf, and the PZX is about $70 cheaper.
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Post by 4wardthinking on Sept 1, 2016 18:00:56 GMT 11
Bizarre!. I have a full set on ours!.
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Post by eburbsleaf on Oct 24, 2016 10:14:06 GMT 11
What about the bluearth Yokohamas that Jeff Johnson is using for his round Australia trip? I need a new set of fronts - and the local tyre shop (not Nissan) suggested Yokohama bluearth - has anyone had these on their LEAF and have good / bad points ? Its been interesting reading this thread. Im not wedded to the Ecopia's - I just need the car to be as-good / preferably better with a new set of tyres on !!
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Post by 4wardthinking on Oct 24, 2016 15:50:57 GMT 11
You may never achieve as new sadly. Manufacturers have their vehicle tyres fitted by tyre manufacturers. They fit the tyre, and actually shave balance & round them, which doesn't happen when you have tyres replaced. Only Yoko's I've ever had were on one of my 4x4 sports cars, but they wore quick as they were soft compound. They did their job well. No idea on the LRR versions though. It's probably a personal choice, guided by the dollar really.
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Post by stewartm on Oct 24, 2016 20:30:48 GMT 11
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Post by 4wardthinking on Oct 26, 2016 10:01:28 GMT 11
Trouble is countries differ a lot when it comes to 'certified' information, and obtaining the type specified. LRR differs country to country. Some countries don't allow for rim & tyre changes from what's fitted as standard either. I had similar with one of the other vehicles. The tyres the collective deemed best we're not available here, and I chose to buy from here, if only to cover my insurance get-out clause aspect.
Personally Michelin are behind the likes of Nankang tyres, given the 'don't care' attitude of the supposed technical engineers reason mine began to fall apart. I had noticed Bridgestones LRR statement, and that a large number of tyres( regular visits to tyre shop) showed them to be good all-round, and chose them. The 'extra road noise" aspect is subjective, as there are many factors at play. Now given Prius #1 is still on set one of the B'stone Ecopias, and not showing any notable adverse wear or traction issues, I originally asked for the "super" Eco tyre, which sadly was withdrawn(it's reassuring when Michelin had vision problems on theirs) chose the Ecopia EP100. Ours was fitted all-round almost immediately. They do the task, and no noise, traction or wear issues noted. They are my recommendation. Btw. As for M/cycles, I had traction issues in my 1100 with B'stone, but that's why we nick-named them 'skid-masters'. As for car offerings in AU, they appear to be great. Many fake-o's of LRR floating around, but given the 10 square inch actually holding onto the road, I went for reliable named Bridgestone tyres. Even their tyre centres were honest, polite, respected the vehicle inside & out, and took time to discuss technically their offerings, even though one model was withdrawn. That is reassuring. They now send me a text to say they will rotate them & inspect for free. Nice customer service.
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Post by 4wardthinking on Oct 26, 2016 10:03:23 GMT 11
Trouble is countries differ a lot when it comes to 'certified' information, and obtaining the type specified. LRR differs country to country. Some countries don't allow for rim & tyre changes from what's fitted as standard either. I had similar with one of the other vehicles. The tyres the collective deemed best we're not available here, and I chose to buy from here, if only to cover my insurance get-out clause aspect.
Personally Michelin are behind the likes of Nankang tyres, given the 'don't care' attitude of the supposed technical engineers reason mine began to fall apart. I had noticed Bridgestones LRR statement, and that a large number of tyres( regular visits to tyre shop) showed them to be good all-round, and chose them. The 'extra road noise" aspect is subjective, as there are many factors at play. Now given Prius #1 is still on set one of the B'stone Ecopias, and not showing any notable adverse wear or traction issues, I originally asked for the "super" Eco tyre, which sadly was withdrawn(it's reassuring when Michelin had vision problems on theirs) chose the Ecopia EP100. Ours was fitted all-round almost immediately. They do the task, and no noise, traction or wear issues noted. They are my recommendation. Btw. As for M/cycles, I had traction issues in my 1100 with B'stone, but that's why we nick-named them 'skid-masters'. As for car offerings in AU, they appear to be great. Many fake-o's of LRR floating around, but given the 10 square inch actually holding onto the road, I went for reliable named Bridgestone tyres. Even their tyre centres were honest, polite, respected the vehicle inside & out, and took time to discuss technically their offerings, even though one model was withdrawn. That is reassuring. They now send me a text to say they will rotate them & inspect for free. Nice customer service.
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Post by 4wardthinking on Oct 26, 2016 10:08:57 GMT 11
Uh!. Sorry chaps, I seem to have mirror posted!. One needs deleting, but it's an admin call/function.
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Post by jacky on Jan 14, 2017 17:03:21 GMT 11
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Post by pharmadave on Jan 15, 2017 0:01:35 GMT 11
How many kilometres have people travelled in their Leaf before having to replace tyres? My Leaf's done just under 30,000Kms and it doesn't seem to be anywhere near the wear indicators.
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Post by jacky on Jan 15, 2017 16:00:47 GMT 11
Mine has 46k. I over inflated the tyres and thus they are not evenly worn out. My front tyres has more wearing and it has about 1 mm to the indicator. I swapped it to the rear but that possibly can only last for another 2 months. I put about 300 - 400 km each week into the clock and I don't want to wait to the last minute and have to buy tyres without any discounts.
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Post by jacky on Jan 21, 2017 11:32:23 GMT 11
I replaced the tyres with Hankook Kinergy Eco k425 this morning. Too early to have any conclusions but a 40 km drive on dry road let me feel it is at least as good as the original tyres. I am waiting for the rain to test the wet performance.
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Post by rusdy on Oct 4, 2017 18:29:28 GMT 11
Shucks! I didn't realise tires make a BIG difference (for depleted range first gen Leaf!). My original Ecopia replaced by stock standard Nissan service department (Kumho), and my range dropped dramatically (around 15%). From average 0.12~0.13 to 0.15~0.16 kWh/km. That cuts 15 - 20km of my usual range. Sad. Sob sob... That'll teach me not to prioritise convenience next time
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Post by Feng on Oct 5, 2017 1:58:55 GMT 11
I might have mentioned it before: The tyres will take some time to break in and you'll get some range back. That's the experience I had when I replaced my Ecopias with an identical set. My range tanked for a few thousand kms.
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