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Post by lesmando24 on Sept 15, 2017 18:45:36 GMT 11
stewartm, I had a repair done to my rear quarter panel. But it was not put into an oven as it was a small repair.
les
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Post by stewartm on Sept 17, 2017 8:47:34 GMT 11
Thanks Les
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Post by EVangelist on Sept 19, 2017 17:09:47 GMT 11
Well everyone, lost my 4th bar yesterday with 76k on the clock. Have contacted Nepean Nissan and they want car in next week for testing. Hopefully will mean Replacement pack so fingers crossed I don't have to jump through too many hoops. :-) I lost my second bar earlier this year - about 2.5 years into ownership, so if this keeps up the 4th bar will be gone just after the 5 year warranty expires For us the odo is a bit academic, we don't do a lot of driving (27k approaching 3 years).
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Post by datsunleaf on Sept 26, 2017 20:00:57 GMT 11
Nepean Nissan have been advised by Nissan Australia to submit a pre-work authorisation for a replacement battery. Now we wait
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Post by datsunleaf on Sept 28, 2017 22:23:05 GMT 11
Nepean Nissan have been advised by Nissan Australia to submit a pre-work authorisation for a replacement battery. Now we wait We got the call today to let us know that our battery replacement has been approved and has been ordered. Apparently it is coming via boat from Europe and hopefully will be here within 6-7 weeks. Ho ho ho - a new battery before Christmas. Thank you Nissan for standing by your warranty!
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Post by Feng on Sept 29, 2017 13:42:43 GMT 11
Ahh you're too lucky. I just passed 100,000km last weekend and I'm about 1% from losing the fourth bar but couldn't get it over in time. I can only hope for special consideration now if it goes in the near future. In the meantime I keep telling myself I can live with the range I've got, which is 120km with careful driving.
If a company works out a way to install a higher density battery pack they will have thousands of customers queueing up for it.
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Post by datsunleaf on Sept 30, 2017 18:53:42 GMT 11
I wish they were installing the new 400 klm battery :-)
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Post by stewartm on Sept 30, 2017 20:36:36 GMT 11
Feng, mention the terms not as advertised, and fit for purpose, in discussions. It's clear in the initial marketing that there was no mention to customers of the extent of battery degradation or the significant loss of range. This certainly has reduced the use ability for some customers, and if like me they were told they may expect to lose a third of range in a few years, they may not have bought it.
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Post by aja on Oct 6, 2017 20:17:51 GMT 11
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Post by EVangelist on Oct 7, 2017 13:16:08 GMT 11
Ahh you're too lucky. I just passed 100,000km last weekend and I'm about 1% from losing the fourth bar but couldn't get it over in time. We are just about to hit our 3rd anniversary with our car. 2 bars down but we have not even hit 30,000 km yet. I didn't notice when the second bar went, I estimate somewhere between 3 and 6 months ago. What might get us warranty-wise is elapsed time. If the 3rd bar goes within the next 6-9 months, it is likely the 4th bar will go before the 5 years is up. But it could be a close-run thing. Range-wise it won't impact us much, we've only driven it more than 100 km in a day twice.
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Post by empowerrepower on Oct 8, 2017 20:20:50 GMT 11
Hi, a question for Lesmando. Now that you've had your new battery for a while, have your worked out your range when it is charged to 100%? I think the last comment I saw was your range at 80% charge. I'm two bars down, after 2 1/2 years, so feel it is very possible that I'll be down four bars before the end of 5 years. My mileage is now at 56K, so might hit the 100 000 warranty limit before the 5 years elapses.
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Post by lesmando24 on Oct 9, 2017 9:39:20 GMT 11
I was able to go from Cleveland to Gatton (via the city) on a single charge. I started with 158km (twelve battery segments). When I got to Gatton it had 28km (two battery segments) and travelled 116km. I charged to 80% (ten battery segments) and went to Toowoomba. When I got back to Gatton I had 23km (two battery segments) and travelled 92km.
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Post by datsunleaf on Feb 7, 2018 21:02:27 GMT 11
Our battery was finally replaced today. We now have 12 bars and 185km on the guessometer 83100 on the odometer.
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Post by Feng on Feb 7, 2018 22:02:26 GMT 11
Fantastic! I get my turn next Monday. Looking forward to trying long distance driving like my early days.
I've read that the newer 30kWh batteries degrade just as badly as ours. There are owners who've had their cars for less than a year and needed their packs changed. That's worrisome and makes me wonder how the latest 40kWh packs will fare.
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Post by Feng on Feb 14, 2018 11:01:33 GMT 11
Got my new battery installed. It took a little longer because they couldn't find their battery registration chip and had to borrow one from another dealer. I thought they were making it up to cover for taking their time but after I drove home I found they had left the chip in my car. The service rep said the mechanic hasn't done a battery swap since training for it, I'm glad his training didn't go to waste. Another rep mentioned it took six guys with protective gloves to push the battery around the shop floor, I'm not sure if he was exaggerating. They didn't mind the experience, the rep said it was something different. The warranty authorisation came all the way from Japan and the rep said he was surprised it was given approval. I don't think my past dealings with Nissan had any impact on this. In fact when I politely wrote to my contact at Nissan who helped me get to Japan about it I never got a reply. Having the extra range is taking some getting used to after being conditioned to budget my range!
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Post by Feng on Feb 14, 2018 11:02:04 GMT 11
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Post by Brian on Feb 18, 2018 22:45:06 GMT 11
Recently lost my 3rd bar at 43,000 kms and about five and a half years. But otherwise, the car continues to run flawlessly. It appears that there is nothing helping to keep the battery pack in it’s temperature comfort zone, as opposed to Mr. Musk’s car.
BTW, I now have 2nd hand LEAF batteries installed in my Vectrix, giving the best range I have ever had.
Anybody know of a crashed / written off LEAF ?
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Post by empowerrepower on Feb 20, 2018 11:44:54 GMT 11
Our battery was finally replaced today. We now have 12 bars and 185km on the guessometer 83100 on the odometer. Hi, have you had a chance to work out the real-life range yet on a fully charged car with your new battery? The guessometer is usually wildly out. When I first got my Leaf, it said 154km on the guessometer, but I never managed more than about 100km.
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Post by empowerrepower on Feb 20, 2018 11:47:32 GMT 11
Got my new battery installed. It took a little longer because they couldn't find their battery registration chip and had to borrow one from another dealer. I thought they were making it up to cover for taking their time but after I drove home I found they had left the chip in my car. The service rep said the mechanic hasn't done a battery swap since training for it, I'm glad his training didn't go to waste. Another rep mentioned it took six guys with protective gloves to push the battery around the shop floor, I'm not sure if he was exaggerating. They didn't mind the experience, the rep said it was something different. The warranty authorisation came all the way from Japan and the rep said he was surprised it was given approval. I don't think my past dealings with Nissan had any impact on this. In fact when I politely wrote to my contact at Nissan who helped me get to Japan about it I never got a reply. Having the extra range is taking some getting used to after being conditioned to budget my range! Wow, exciting. Can you please post your real-life range when you work out what it is? I think that I will probably lost my fourth bar before the warranty runs out, so have an interest. Thanks for taking the photos of the battery change-over, interesting to see a bit of our car that we can't usually see.
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Post by datsunleaf on Feb 20, 2018 20:26:37 GMT 11
Our battery was finally replaced today. We now have 12 bars and 185km on the guessometer 83100 on the odometer. Hi, have you had a chance to work out the real-life range yet on a fully charged car with your new battery? The guessometer is usually wildly out. When I first got my Leaf, it said 154km on the guessometer, but I never managed more than about 100km. We haven't pushed it yet, but our round trip to work is around 70km plus around 10km at lunchtime and we are getting home with somewhere between 80 & 90km left. This is mainly on the M4 with speeds of between 90 & 110km. We feel that even though we bought our Leaf new, it had been in storage for sometime and this added to the degradation of the battery. Now, with a new battery, and being charged normally, we may get a better range and longevity from it. Fingers crossed. Hopefully it will now last until the extra long range Leaf arrives.
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Post by chuq on Feb 21, 2018 13:45:56 GMT 11
Our battery was finally replaced today. We now have 12 bars and 185km on the guessometer 83100 on the odometer. 185 km? Did they accidentally install a 30kWh pack? Or do you live at the bottom of a hill?
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Post by datsunleaf on Feb 21, 2018 17:34:25 GMT 11
LOL no but that's why it's called a Guessometer :-)
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Post by markrmarkr on Feb 28, 2018 22:25:07 GMT 11
Got my new battery installed. It took a little longer because they couldn't find their battery registration chip and had to borrow one from another dealer. I thought they were making it up to cover for taking their time but after I drove home I found they had left the chip in my car. The service rep said the mechanic hasn't done a battery swap since training for it, I'm glad his training didn't go to waste. Another rep mentioned it took six guys with protective gloves to push the battery around the shop floor, I'm not sure if he was exaggerating. They didn't mind the experience, the rep said it was something different. The warranty authorisation came all the way from Japan and the rep said he was surprised it was given approval. I don't think my past dealings with Nissan had any impact on this. In fact when I politely wrote to my contact at Nissan who helped me get to Japan about it I never got a reply. Having the extra range is taking some getting used to after being conditioned to budget my range! Did you get the swap done at Rockdale Feng?
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Post by Feng on Feb 28, 2018 22:49:17 GMT 11
Yes I did. The place is a bit dingy and the service rep wasn't the friendliest, but they did a competent job by the looks of it. Little things like masking off the connectors and stuff.
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Post by chuq on Mar 1, 2018 22:09:03 GMT 11
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Post by rusdy on Mar 2, 2018 10:04:02 GMT 11
Unfortunately I don't have any useful comment to add apart of more whinging session. It is indeed appalling for such an expensive car is no longer supported. I only can suggest the rest of leaf owners to send letters to nissan intending replacing the battery. Let's agree on the timing, so nissan is flooded with the letter (email should suffice). Who's with me? Send it all at once. We need to know numbers first. Mine need to be replaced in 2 years, when the range will drop to 70ish km, full charge. Would like to replace it now, but coins prohibit (sending the letter of intent can be done much earlier of course).
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Post by chuq on Mar 2, 2018 13:22:08 GMT 11
Mine is 10/12 bars, 5 years 7 months since manufacture, and 49000 km, so I don't think I'd qualify now, let alone when it drops to 8/12 (that's the cut off, isn't it?)
My expectation is that by time I do need a replacement it will be so far down the road that there will be 3rd party services which will source and install a 30 kWh or 40 kWh pack. (I understand they are the same physical size?)
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Post by stewartm on Mar 2, 2018 18:23:35 GMT 11
I'm just about at the 4th bar, warranty out end of April, my dealer has said he won't even look at it until that last bar has dropped. I still have the original sales info where they said guaranteed 80% at 5 years, I have my guess o meter showing 186 new, and 101 now, certainly more than a 20% loss but they won't accept it. I'm ready to go to ACCC to be honest, I would even consider a subsidy, but this is bad advertising. In comparison my French leaf has similar km with one bar loss. Heat is the killer.
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Post by mike on Mar 8, 2018 1:44:14 GMT 11
I lost my 4th bar today (approaching 4th year of ownership in April). I've been monitoring the battery degradation using Leaf Spy Lite and have recorded the AHr and SOH stats against distance and time. Attached is a spreadsheet showing the data and also plots of AHr against distance and time. If I had to guess, degradation is more correlated to distance than time...that relationship seemed most linear and predictable. Practically distance would be aligned to charge cycles which makes a bit of sense from battery degradation perspective. The 4th bar drops off at 43.2 AHr according to other forums and my experience. Hope this helps others as they approach warranty deadlines. I've booked in a service at Northside Nissan to confirm the battery condition and kick off the warranty replacement activity. Will be interesting to see how quickly they can get the battery in and replaced...I'm not in any rush as the Leaf still meets 95% of our family's needs.
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Post by jeffthewalker on Mar 8, 2018 7:49:57 GMT 11
I lost my 4th bar today (approaching 4th year of ownership in April). I've been monitoring the battery degradation using Leaf Spy Lite and have recorded the AHr and SOH stats against distance and time. Attached is a spreadsheet showing the data and also plots of AHr against distance and time. If I had to guess, degradation is more correlated to distance than time...that relationship seemed most linear and predictable. Practically distance would be aligned to charge cycles which makes a bit of sense from battery degradation perspective. The 4th bar drops off at 43.2 AHr according to other forums and my experience. Hope this helps others as they approach warranty deadlines. Thanks for all that info. I got my LEAF in September 2015, so about 2 1/2 years of ownership. And loved every minute of it. Since May last year, at the beginning of my drive around Oz, I started keeping a spreadsheet of my LEAF Spy readings (see attachments). Comparing my Ah and SOH% I am able to confirm that I am about to lose my 3rd bar. LEAFenergy1.xls (17 KB)
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