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Post by riddick on Mar 27, 2014 10:39:21 GMT 11
Hmm, I take it back... Germany has seen more EVs sold in February then Australia in 2 years!! Thanks for the link. Interesting that Bosch does not see it as a market yet.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 28, 2014 16:53:44 GMT 11
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Post by stewartm on Mar 28, 2014 23:26:47 GMT 11
Interesting that the EMW juicebox almost fully assembled parts are only $149US even with a very heavy metal box..
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Post by lesmando24 on Mar 29, 2014 9:21:11 GMT 11
Looks like the price went up. A juicebox is now $179, plus input cable $40 and 32 AMP 25 feet charging cable $149, plus $118 international shipping, plus holster $20. So minimum price is US $506. Still excellent value if you like putting these together yourself (compared to the clipper creek LCS 20E at US $495 plus shipping).
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Post by gabzimiev on Mar 29, 2014 16:02:41 GMT 11
(compared to the clipper creek LCS 20E at US $495 plus shipping). they quoted me $68 for shipping "The estimated shipping cost to Sydney would be about $68"--email the 6/11/2013 besides estation, chargepoint the 3rd company with an australian distributor is aerovironment evsolutions.avinc.com/products/at_home/ the local distributor puts a big Australia tax on these what is sold in the USA for $800USD is suddenly $2100 in when sold in AUS. but if you can drop ship it from the the USA it should be approved for Australian use etc..
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Post by stewartm on Apr 4, 2014 22:42:40 GMT 11
Mine was US$149 plus US$61 shipping. Was a very simple kit to put together and well designed. I got an 18' plus J1772 plug off amazon $139 with delivery. All works well. Got it for my work office. If I did another I would get the premium unit pre assembled with cable and J1772.
Cheers
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Post by jgprice on Apr 5, 2014 12:24:18 GMT 11
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Post by tlam47 on Apr 6, 2014 10:34:06 GMT 11
Hi I'm new here, doing my research before I buy. So the cheapest way to charge is to use the EVSE that comes with the car using the Jaycar 10 to 15 amp adapter. For a spare cable, buy the Holden 10amp one and won't need the Jaycar adapter . Right?
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Post by Phoebe on Apr 6, 2014 11:27:24 GMT 11
Hi tlam47, welcome to the forum. Yes, that is probably the cheapest way, but because of overload possibilities, Nissan says that voids the warranty so I have installed a 15amp dedicated power point, which doesn't void the warranty and only cost $200.
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Post by Feng on Apr 6, 2014 12:15:57 GMT 11
Hi tlam47, welcome to the forum. Adding to what Phoebe said, the car and EVSE should be safe, it's the risk of your home's cabling and tripping breakers. Maybe Nissan doesn't want to be held liable for setting garages on fire like what happened to a Tesla Model S in the US. I went through the same shopping exercise when I bought my LEAF. At first I was going to get an EVSE to make the most of the car's on-board 3.3kW charger but after living with the supplied EVSE for a few months we figured charging at 2.4kW was fast enough. The Holden EVSE is convenient because it's wall mountable and you can wrap your cable around it (see here). I would recommend it if you want to save a few bucks, don't need to charge in a hurry and know your home cabling is up to scratch. If you want to play it safe and want to get a sparky to check the cabling while installing a 15A powerpoint then the supplied EVSE does the same thing. Phoebe might have had better luck with hers but after a few months of near daily usage the J1772 cable on mine started coiling in an ugly but functional way and I started getting conscious of its ~$3500 replacement cost!
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Post by caskings on Apr 6, 2014 14:14:14 GMT 11
Hi Tiam47,
I picked up my Leaf two weeks ago. Since I rent, I purchased the Jaycar 10 to 15 amp as a stopgap while I got the landlords permission (they still haven't got back to me) to install a dedicated 15 amp circuit in the garage. But at this point I don't think I'm going to bother with the dedicated circuit. My daily commute is about 110 - 115kms and the Jaycar converter + Nissan travel charger has been enough to recharge overnight.
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Post by Phoebe on Apr 6, 2014 14:37:45 GMT 11
Yes, caskings, there should be no problem recharging overnight with that distance travelled. You just have to make sure you are asleep and not doing my trick of making tea and toast in the middle of the night, because, if you do that on the same circuit, everything will come to a screaming halt, and, if you are very unlucky, your house could catch fire as well
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Post by ravolt on Apr 6, 2014 16:52:02 GMT 11
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Post by tlam47 on Apr 7, 2014 9:05:12 GMT 11
Thanks, that's good. I think I'll mostly charge overnight at off peak so the standard cable is good enough.
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Post by leafboi on Apr 7, 2014 10:30:26 GMT 11
This really is a moot point. Along with all the discussion over adapters. If something is Australian certified for use they have no justification to deny its use. What about people making their own charging units with the open evse... Much more dangerous non australian certified stuff going on there...
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Post by Deleted on Apr 10, 2014 0:44:41 GMT 11
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Post by lesmando24 on Apr 20, 2014 19:05:16 GMT 11
I have ordered one, but I don't know when it will arrive. Will let you know when I get it. Les
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Post by stewartm on Apr 26, 2014 17:31:46 GMT 11
My install, EMW Juicebox limited to 3.6kW. Leaf is doing ok at 7 months and 8000km.. Attachments:
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Post by lesmando24 on Apr 26, 2014 20:55:03 GMT 11
Awesome, EWM said mine should get to me about mid may. Can't wait to put it together.
Les
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Post by riddick on May 21, 2014 17:58:55 GMT 11
Finally, my OpenEVSE parts have arrived in the mail today. I will be assembling as I get time and do a bit of write up on how it went. After reading quite a lot about it, it is actually a much better/safer unit then most commercial ones, so it will be interesting to see how I go...
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Post by Deleted on May 22, 2014 15:25:39 GMT 11
Riddick did u get. 16 or 32 amp model?
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Post by Deleted on May 22, 2014 15:29:20 GMT 11
Feng did nissan quote you $3410 as well ? For the 10a nissan evse?
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Post by Feng on May 22, 2014 15:43:45 GMT 11
I never asked, I was just going by what's been mentioned here before.
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Post by riddick on May 23, 2014 19:49:44 GMT 11
Riddick did u get. 16 or 32 amp model? There is no 16A model, there is only a 30A model. This is the kit I got: openevse-store.myshopify.com/products/openevse-30a-charge-station-comboCost about AUD330 delivered to my door. I got the quick kit which is much cheaper and really there is very little soldering to do. All the surface mount stuff was assembled, including some through hole parts as well. Takes very little time to put together. It also includes the water proof kit and real time clock (not very important for the Leaf). I have almost got it together, however, they accidentally left out a part, so I am getting them to resend it. I have to wait another week now to finish it The unit is very nice and it is tiny compared to everything else I have seen (19cm*12cm*9cm). It is rated for 30A but you can set the max current from the software. As I only have a j1772 rated at 16A, I will only be setting it up for 16A. However, should I require 30A in the future, I will only need to change the external cabling (and of course rewire my house, ) I will take some pictures once done...
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Post by gabzimiev on May 23, 2014 20:26:25 GMT 11
have you megga tested the high current connections ? soldering the 12volt stuff wouldn't phase me but the high current connections i would be worried about hot joints, resistance.... the fire risk.
and what are they using for the 240volt to 12 volt conversion ?
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Post by Feng on May 23, 2014 20:39:16 GMT 11
Does that price include the J1772 cable or did you source one elsewhere?
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Post by riddick on May 24, 2014 11:04:28 GMT 11
Gabzi, the high current connections are not soldiered, but crimped or fitted on a screw terminal. They should be fine, I guess I will just have to observe the first 15 mins of charging. OpenEVSE is a very safe device, it has more protection then most of the commercial boxes. Check here: code.google.com/p/open-evse/wiki/OpenEVSE_boards Feng, I still have quite a few J1772 cables lying around, so it was free for me . If any one needs one, I am selling them very cheap, so just PM me.
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Post by Feng on May 24, 2014 11:18:06 GMT 11
Oooh that's compelling. Was there a reason you chose OpenEVSE over JuiceBox?
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Post by riddick on May 24, 2014 16:20:41 GMT 11
There was thread where the OpenEVSE and JuiceBox guy was arguing. OpenEVSE was much more convincing about safety and features, it also has a much longer history. And OpenEVSE is really open source, where I can modify the code. JuiceBox is not. I am thinking to write something to store charging history. Would be really cool if I could get to the Leaf km data and store both. Currently I only have a vague idea on how much it is costing me. Some more costs today, $14 for the mains cable, 15A plug and heat shrink. So currently I stand at $344, which I think will be the final cost
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