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Post by marty on Aug 13, 2013 10:32:32 GMT 11
Hi all,
I was just emailed a pamphlet on the capped
Scheduled Service Intervals for LEAF:
6 months/10,000km $89.01
12 months/20,000km $255.78
18 months/30,000km $89.01
24 months/40,000km $330.25
30 months/50,000km $89.01
36 months/60,000km $225.78
42 months/70,000km $89.01
48 months/80,000km $330.25
54 months/90,000km $89.01
60 months/100,000km $255.78
66 months/110,000km $89.01
72 months/120,000km $330.25
Since some members have been to a few of these "services" I was wondering what it is they actually do and put on the invoice?
Are there any fluids to change or top up other than wiper and battery coolant (if any)? The $89 I can live with, but $255 and $330? I would be surprised if they spend more than an hour in labor and bugger all in parts on any one of these "services".
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Post by marty on Aug 14, 2013 13:04:18 GMT 11
Hello people?
14 Watchers and no one has anyhting to say? ;-)
Are there any fluids to change or top up other than wiper and battery coolant (if any)? The $89 I can live with, but $255 and $330? I would be surprised if they spend more than an hour in labor and bugger all in parts on any one of these "services".
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Post by Phoebe on Aug 14, 2013 14:01:30 GMT 11
I'm sure I've seen a list somewhere of what is done at each service. I know sometimes they test the batteries to see if any cells have died. Bit more in another thread - see: Feng Junior Member ** member is online [send pm]
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Post by marty on Aug 14, 2013 17:27:40 GMT 11
interesting blog this aussieleaf. thanks for the link.
However would have hoped for more info on the 1000km check:
1000 km first service today and it’s -3 degrees C.
We’re off to Rex Gorell Nissan Geelong today for our first service, there’s frost on the ground and it’s -3 degrees celcius! I’ve read on forums that cold temperatures can effect the Leaf’s battery performance and therefore vehicle range. Will be interesting to see how we go.
Good news! We arrive at Rex Gorell Nissan with 3 bars of battery charge left and a range to empty of 30+ k’s which is identical to all previous trips to Geelong. The temperature ranged from -3 to 4 degrees C over the course of the trip and I can safely say the cold spell had absolutely no effect at all on our battery range.
The service checks out “A” ok and after arriving back home to Ballarat I see that the battery range is proving to be very consistent and reliable. This is the third return trip to Ballarat from Geelong and on each trip we have arrived home with the exact same result, 1 bar of battery charge showing and a range of 10 km left to empty. [see pic above]. Interestingly turning the headlights on had no impact on our range to empty on the way home. Normally turning things on like air conditioning significantly impacts on the Leaf’s range but running the headlights apparently has no effect.
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Post by Phoebe on Aug 14, 2013 17:35:31 GMT 11
I think the headlights run off the 12v battery and the aircon runs off the main batteries.
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Post by Feng on Aug 14, 2013 17:58:42 GMT 11
Just a correction to my original post about the 1000km service: I don't think the stars in the report are a measure of the health of the battery, it's like a report card on how well you've been treating it. It's the battery status bar at the top of the page which shows the capacity of the battery. See David's post about his report to illustrate this: ozleaf.proboards.com/index.cgi?action=display&board=range&thread=67&page=1#488Dave, I'm curious to see what your next one will say after you left it charged for two weeks. I've used the QC twice already and want to see if it'll show up in my next service.
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Post by Jim Hare on Aug 15, 2013 9:27:49 GMT 11
Marty, I think you are worrying too much about the batteries. You have to do some nasty stuff to damage them and there is very little you can do that would be considered bad. The accessories have bugger-all effect on the battery and range. If you look at the energy page on the display you'll see the accessories are measured in decimals and the motor in full numbers. Even climate control can only go to up 6, which is the equivalent of very light cruising. Enjoy the LEAF, don't worry about the batteries, just drive smart, that's the best thing you can do. interesting blog this aussieleaf. thanks for the link. However would have hoped for more info on the 1000km check: 1000 km first service today and it’s -3 degrees C. We’re off to Rex Gorell Nissan Geelong today for our first service, there’s frost on the ground and it’s -3 degrees celcius! I’ve read on forums that cold temperatures can effect the Leaf’s battery performance and therefore vehicle range. Will be interesting to see how we go. Good news! We arrive at Rex Gorell Nissan with 3 bars of battery charge left and a range to empty of 30+ k’s which is identical to all previous trips to Geelong. The temperature ranged from -3 to 4 degrees C over the course of the trip and I can safely say the cold spell had absolutely no effect at all on our battery range. The service checks out “A” ok and after arriving back home to Ballarat I see that the battery range is proving to be very consistent and reliable. This is the third return trip to Ballarat from Geelong and on each trip we have arrived home with the exact same result, 1 bar of battery charge showing and a range of 10 km left to empty. [see pic above]. Interestingly turning the headlights on had no impact on our range to empty on the way home. Normally turning things on like air conditioning significantly impacts on the Leaf’s range but running the headlights apparently has no effect.
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Post by marty on Aug 15, 2013 9:56:43 GMT 11
Hey Jim,
yes, you are probably right.
I just wanted to do my due diligence in regards to running costs even after the warranty has expired.
This is what I got back from Peter from Blackburn Nissan yesterday:
DEAR Martin
The leaf service schedule is as follows. All components are inspected every service incl usuall checks such as: Brakes, steering, suspension,tyres,battery condition,seat belt buckles/restraints,etc. Note: Included in the capped price service, is the adjustment of the h/brake(emergency brake) :top up of windscreen washer fluid :coolant is a non serviceable item(coolant runs the heater only) The guideline for fluid level/filters over time are as follows: Cabin filter (particulate filter) is to be replaced every 20k. (20k,40k,60k intervals etc)
Brake fluid(hydrolic oil) is replaced every 40k. (40k,80k, intervals) Costing of front brakes is as follows:
Front pads $180.00 Front rotors $205ea (note an additional 1.5hours laybor charge in fitment of these items)
I hope this helps Kind regards Peter Service adviser
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Post by marty on Aug 15, 2013 12:47:05 GMT 11
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Post by marty on Aug 15, 2013 13:14:53 GMT 11
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Post by Phoebe on Aug 15, 2013 13:40:15 GMT 11
Have taken a copy of the Service and Maintenance Guide. Thanks for that, Marty.
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Post by marty on Aug 15, 2013 13:59:15 GMT 11
You are welcome. I gave you more Karma, as well...;-)
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Post by leafboi on Aug 15, 2013 14:24:17 GMT 11
I hardly ever need to use my brakes. Doubt if ill need to replace the pads in my length of ownership.
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Post by marty on Aug 15, 2013 14:27:30 GMT 11
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Post by Phoebe on Aug 15, 2013 14:38:00 GMT 11
You are welcome. I gave you more Karma, as well...;-) Wow
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Post by duncan on Aug 15, 2013 20:43:11 GMT 11
The non-EV stuff will almost certainly be reused....I would guess Tiida for the brake pads and rotors.
When I looked into changing the suspension the US guys confirmed the front was Altima and the rear was Versa - they just don't bother spending money on re-engineering parts that can just be re-used from an existing model instead.
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Post by marty on Aug 21, 2013 15:06:13 GMT 11
Annual Service Contract Hi all, another interesting thing I found on the TESLA Motors web site: www.teslamotors.com/en_AU/blog/creating-world%E2%80%99s-best-service-and-warranty-program-0"Unlike gasoline cars, an electric car doesn’t need oil changes, fuel filters, spark plugs, smog checks, etc., which are only needed if the mode of locomotion involves burning oil derived products. For an electric car, you don’t even need to replace the brake pads, because most of the braking energy is regeneratively captured by the motor and returned to the battery. As such, we are comfortable making the annual checkup entirely optional. There is still value to having Tesla look at the car once a year for things like tire alignment, to address a few things here & there and perform any hardware upgrades – our goal is not just to fix things, but to make the car better than it was. However, even if you never bring in the car, your warranty is still valid." NEVER BRING THE CAR TO A DEALER OR HAVE IT CHECKED BY A MECHANIC AND STILL UPHOLD WARRANTY? HOW COOL IS THAT? Looks like I have to start a TESLA Forum as I can see myself in one of those more and more...
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Post by duncan on Aug 21, 2013 15:30:07 GMT 11
better check the price first. I do like what they are doing though. As Phoebe said elsewhere, we certainly don't take our dishwashers and washing machines in for 3 monthly "services"
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Post by Phoebe on Aug 21, 2013 16:14:42 GMT 11
Yep, don't 'service' the vacuum cleaner or frig either. The thing that has put me off the Tesla is the price - can't work out exactly what it is but it appears from the tax info on their web site to be between $57,466 and $75,375. Even the lower end of that price range is beyond me, though I am impressed with their common sense attitude to 'servicing'. In that respect, Nissan makes me cross 'Servicing' should be optional and the waranty should not depend on it
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Post by Jim Hare on Aug 22, 2013 8:27:24 GMT 11
Meh, let Nissan have their servicing. For 5 years it's what, maybe $2,000?
And for that you'll have a clear idea of everything about your car and battery the entire time.
More importantly they might find and fix a problem under warranty that could be missed and kill your car the day after the warranty expires.
Plus you'll save $15.95 on windscreen washer fluid!
Plus the service departments had to retool and retrain specifically for the LEAF, and that's a big investment.
Now if Nissan were to say a petrol car service at the dealer generally costs about $350 -$500 every time the car comes in so that's how we're pricing the LEAF servicing, that would add up quickly, more than double the amount over the same time period.
Tesla are still cowboys. Could be they just don't have the service infrastructure to see every one of their cars twice a year so easier to say don't bring them in than build the infrastructure.
In the end Tesla probably just added the $2k for servicing to the upfront price, they just aren't giving you the service. Honoring the warranty just means they are taking out an insurance policy. Cheaper to fix a few cars than service all of them.
Don't make them a hero for this, they are just playing the number game.
Having said that, I'd love a Tesla to be my next EV!
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Post by ravolt on Jul 5, 2014 0:46:15 GMT 11
10000km service,Magic Nissan Melville, $71.23. 4/07/14 7 1/2 months old
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Post by EVtricity on Jul 7, 2014 10:52:09 GMT 11
Got my 12 months service (just under 6,000km) at Mildren Prestige at Artarmon.
Cost was $250 inc GST which is inline with the $257 fixed price service.
Also my heater was not working at all and they found the heater pump requires replacing. No part in Australia so need to order from Japan.
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Post by Feng on Jul 7, 2014 10:57:58 GMT 11
Also my heater was not working at all and they found the heater pump requires replacing. No part in Australia so need to order from Japan. Both Kris in Sydney and Phil in Canberra had heater problems. Does that make it a common fault?
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Post by Phoebe on Jul 7, 2014 11:31:32 GMT 11
Haven't tried to use my heater!
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Post by Jim Hare on Jul 7, 2014 12:13:59 GMT 11
Me either, I should try it before the next service just in case!
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Post by jeffjl on Jul 7, 2014 19:48:30 GMT 11
Damn. Power out. Seems inflation has hit. The fixed price services have gone up. Now $94.80 for the 10,000km service. The 20k one seems high compared to the Micra. Running out of batteries (in the computer).
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Post by caskings on Jul 7, 2014 20:40:22 GMT 11
Looking at the manual that listed the US service schedules, the only real difference I could see with the 20K equivalent service was an air filter being replaced. $200 for a filter is a bit rich.
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Post by Jim Hare on Jul 8, 2014 8:26:40 GMT 11
True, but I'll bet none of it was an easy decision for Nissan. "Hey let's spend $4 billion developing a car most people don't want and costs nothing to service to ensure we also lose the $2k per annum we usually make post sale selling oil filters and spark plugs."
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Post by riddick on Jul 10, 2014 23:00:28 GMT 11
Progress is always like that. Do you keep milking your cash cow and get left behind or do you invest in something new? Resist change and you are doomed. Look at Ford, Holden in Australia. I think the service is way overpriced for what you get. I will certainly not do it beyond the warranty period. Jim 15.95 for a windscreen washer? It is only water with some detergent in it... And I love when they talk about seat belt inspection as if I didn't test the buckles daily or I was in an accident frequently...
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Post by gabzimiev on Jul 10, 2014 23:13:36 GMT 11
it's not just Nissan I just had my 12month 15k km service $280 for that I got a new air filter, and washer fluid I think, the sheet they give me with the checks is worthless it includes items like check expiry date on tyre in a can. I asked if they removed the child seats they said no we didn't need too... tyre in a can lives under the back seat so it was an obvious lie they didn't check the expiry date.
frankly Mitsubishi road side assist gets renewed on my yearly service so I can justify $130 of that of not paying for NRMA. and the rest was basic a pink slip breaks tested (have report) wheel alignment checked (have report) about $50-100 worth of labour I guess.
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