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Post by brunohill on Jan 1, 2019 2:07:10 GMT 11
I have seriously been considering ordering a model 3 once the right hand drive ones start coming off the production lines. The most reliable ICE vehicle I have ever owned has been a KIA. But after seeing this ... ... www.youtube.com/watch?v=q8mKQJLFRks and outcome ... ... www.youtube.com/watch?v=g_FTZx1iA5MI am now tossing up if I wait for an E Niro or replace the battery in my Leaf. It is obvious that if you front up to court in a T shirt that you will never win. If the court system is not biased, why is the first thing that ask you ... ... What is your occupation? I guess if you are a Schlosser your job is to lock people out or lock people up.
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Jan 1, 2019 12:17:09 GMT 11
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Post by rusdy on Jan 1, 2019 12:17:09 GMT 11
I remember that was one famous (YouTube sensation) same case in US (buying salvaged Tesla expecting getting supercharger access with 'Tesla' staff confirmation prior) ending up huge disappointment.
Looks like Tesla still hasn't done well in lining up their out of usual requests from headquarters down to its minions.
That further confirms my suspicion that if one want to get Tesla, one has to ensure getting it via its website to ensure long-term coverage.
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Mar 2, 2019 19:33:06 GMT 11
Post by pharmadave on Mar 2, 2019 19:33:06 GMT 11
Well I'm sure most of the members have just heard that Tesla mythical $35K USD Model 3 has just been announced. Cliche words like 'game changer' come to mind.
At the same time, we've seen Tesla cut prices on the Model S and X also, (P100D Model S just dropped by more than $80k AUD)
Overnight, Nissan USA just announced that the base grade Lead E-PLUS with 60kWh battery will start from $36,550USD.
I think whenever a new affordable EV is released, many will use the $35K Model 3 as the benchmark and it's a tough value proposition to beat, range, performance, charging network, connectivity, safety. (potential pitfalls... after sales service)
What are your thoughts?
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Mar 2, 2019 23:41:43 GMT 11
Post by brunohill on Mar 2, 2019 23:41:43 GMT 11
Maybe they will come good, it would be nice,although how many manufacturers of EVs have made announcements that have yet to come to fruition. 2018 was meant to be the Australian year of the EV, with all the announcements of various makes and models that never came. The Zoe made it but that was it I think. I guess Tesla won't have a large stock of diesels to get rid of on the Australian market.
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Mar 3, 2019 17:56:02 GMT 11
Post by markrmarkr on Mar 3, 2019 17:56:02 GMT 11
... it's a tough value proposition to beat, range, performance, charging network, connectivity, safety.... I think you'll find you get a lot less value at $35 USD. Smallest battery, RWD with no sporty options, no (or you pay) super charging, no driver aids, etc.
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Post by pharmadave on Mar 3, 2019 18:15:02 GMT 11
... it's a tough value proposition to beat, range, performance, charging network, connectivity, safety.... I think you'll find you get a lot less value at $35 USD. Smallest battery, RWD with no sporty options, no (or you pay) super charging, no driver aids, etc. I guess it’s what the competition is like. In terms of sporty features, 0-100 in 5.6sec is nothing to shake a stick at. My Model S 90 does it in 5.4 and it feels fast. Pay per use supercharging is a given these days regardless of what Tesla is bought. Autopilot based safety features are enabled without cost, the extra autopilot features will cost extra. $ for a software unlock is all it takes down the track if the buyer feels up to it (margins will have to be made somewhere) It will certainly push the competition to improve their offerings at the same price range. I don’t believe Tesla will bring anything to market below this price range any time soon as they like to position themselves in the premium sector of each vehicle category. It will leave a lot of the market to other automakers to fill the sub $30k USD segment. Something like a VW ID or longer range Ioniq. I will keep my Leaf for a least the next 3-4 years and re-enter the market once more offerings are made available. Who knows, maybe by then, there might be a viable aftermarket battery swap option for the 1st gen Leafs or some kind of government incentive for EVs in Australia (...unlikely).
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Post by markrmarkr on Mar 4, 2019 1:05:19 GMT 11
For performance you would probably need to compare the Jag, Porsche, etc, but this'll be a different price range to the 3.
I'm not expecting the finish to be OTT though (leather, paint, wheels), maybe the sub $30K cars will get a look in there.
And we still have to see what $35k USD translates to here.
Whenever they finally get here.
I'm getting real tired of waiting - maybe I'll just keep my Leaf.
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Post by EVangelist on Mar 7, 2019 15:13:23 GMT 11
And we still have to see what $35k USD translates to here. Whenever they finally get here. I'm getting real tired of waiting - maybe I'll just keep my Leaf. According the CleanTechnica the first RHD Model 3 VINs have been registered, so that means Tesla has started making the first RHD Model 3s for testing, homologation and the like. Speculation is the configurator will open in about 2 months time and first deliveries therefore will be in June/July. So Model 3 is not that far away! It has been a long wait but there is now light at the end of the tunnel... PS. I am still keeping my LEAF, Model 3 will kick the Camry out and we will be BEV-only. Bliss!
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Post by pharmadave on Mar 21, 2019 17:48:09 GMT 11
Elon just responded on social media that Australian Model 3 productions will be starting late May or early June and deliveries to start soon after. So hopefully not long now for those with a reservation.
I no longer have a reservation and will wait for the Model Y whenever that arrives.
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Apr 23, 2019 10:44:58 GMT 11
Post by pharmadave on Apr 23, 2019 10:44:58 GMT 11
Anyone watched the Tesla autonomous driving day event? I'm just watching it now.
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Post by pharmadave on Apr 27, 2019 10:15:28 GMT 11
Mr Musk just tweeted that UK Model 3 orders will open next week and other RHD markets (incl. Australia) will be shortly after.
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Post by eburbsleaf on Jun 2, 2019 16:23:10 GMT 11
Well ive decided to take the plunge - and ive just ordered a Model 3 performance (without the performance pack) solely to get the 560 km NEDC range. After having the leaf for nearly 7 years - the range step up will mean that the Model 3 can be the daily drive and for long journeys (were we've been falling back to a trusty 2002 Honda CR-V). Should be here August (ish - tesla time).
This forum has been a great source of info, support for my LEAF journey.
All the best.
(Time to tidy & polish the car and get it up for sale)
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Post by pharmadave on Jun 2, 2019 17:49:37 GMT 11
Well ive decided to take the plunge - and ive just ordered a Model 3 performance (without the performance pack) solely to get the 560 km NEDC range. After having the leaf for nearly 7 years - the range step up will mean that the Model 3 can be the daily drive and for long journeys (were we've been falling back to a trusty 2002 Honda CR-V). Should be here August (ish - tesla time). This forum has been a great source of info, support for my LEAF journey. All the best. (Time to tidy & polish the car and get it up for sale) Congrats! I’m assuming you used someone’s Tesla referral code for a little bit of supercharging(1500kms worth)? If not, may I offer mine to use? Feel free to private message me for the code. Cheers.
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Jun 3, 2019 22:07:45 GMT 11
Post by EVangelist on Jun 3, 2019 22:07:45 GMT 11
I received the invitation to Configure from Tesla early last Friday afternoon, immediately jumped on the site, then my heart sank when I saw the only two options on offer were SR+ and Performance. And also black is the only interior choice. I am only interested in LR RWD or AWD, I do not want any performance bells and whistles. And much prefer a white interior. So I am waiting a few months to see if any other options open up. Tesla changes its mind on configurations every other week, so I may as well wait a bit longer. Some people think they will never offer any other options to AUS as a “low volume market” but we’ll see. They could swap the Performance variant with LR AWD and still just have the two. Or not. Bah.
Disappointing, but there you go.
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Jun 4, 2019 19:00:40 GMT 11
Post by brunohill on Jun 4, 2019 19:00:40 GMT 11
Maybe you will be able to import one from China soon.
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Post by Feng on Jun 5, 2019 12:14:50 GMT 11
I'm curious to know which country will have better build quality. "Made in China" used to indicate terrible build quality but now they're as good as anything Korean or Japanese. At least when it comes to electronics, not sure about cars. Chinese designed cars might still be catching up to the rest of the world.
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Jun 5, 2019 20:11:46 GMT 11
Post by EVangelist on Jun 5, 2019 20:11:46 GMT 11
Maybe you will be able to import one from China soon. Chinese made Tesla’s will be for the China market only, apparently. So no RHDs.
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Jun 25, 2019 19:06:20 GMT 11
Post by jacky on Jun 25, 2019 19:06:20 GMT 11
I received the invitation to Configure from Tesla early last Friday afternoon, immediately jumped on the site, then my heart sank when I saw the only two options on offer were SR+ and Performance. And also black is the only interior choice. I am only interested in LR RWD or AWD, I do not want any performance bells and whistles. And much prefer a white interior. So I am waiting a few months to see if any other options open up. Tesla changes its mind on configurations every other week, so I may as well wait a bit longer. Some people think they will never offer any other options to AUS as a “low volume market” but we’ll see. They could swap the Performance variant with LR AWD and still just have the two. Or not. Bah. Disappointing, but there you go. I was also looking forward to order an AWD. Someone checked the Javascript code on the order page and found that the AWD was included and it is $5000 cheaper than the Performance. It seems that AWD was pulled out in the last minute. Since the hardware on the AWD and Performance are the same (Elon said Performance model motors are tested manually to ensure they can deliver the power), I guess Tesla has enough data to confirm most of their motors are suitable for performance model. The cost of producing AWD and Performance are the same but Performance gives Tesla higher profit margin. Actually, the performance price is much lower than I expected. If I were planning to order a performance model, it is a good deal. Tesla is not trying to improve profit margin by ripping us off. Tesla is still a very small automaker and they need a healthy profit margin to survive. At the end, it is still better than the 1st Gen LEAF which had a price tag of AUD51k + delivery while the same car was USD35k + delivery and AUD > USD. I know... I know... I should let it go...
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Post by pharmadave on Jun 26, 2019 23:38:14 GMT 11
My father just ordered a Standard Range Plus spec Model 3 in Pearl White. Estimated delivery is August just like all the other Model 3s being ordered now. Very excited!
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Post by pharmadave on Jul 29, 2019 0:49:24 GMT 11
I went and checked out the first Australian Model 3 today. It's a Model 3 Performance loaned to Car Advice. Spacious, comfortable, futuristic, minimalistic, high tech are the words which come to mind. Cheeky couple of photos before the offical embargo lifts:
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Jul 29, 2019 23:43:19 GMT 11
Post by EVangelist on Jul 29, 2019 23:43:19 GMT 11
The embargo was allegedly until 5 August, no way that was ever going to hold!!
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Post by pharmadave on Jul 30, 2019 8:32:31 GMT 11
Yeah, I was one of many to take and upload photos.
I don’t get what the big deal is. We’re one of the last existing Tesla markets to get the car, there are countless videos online of Model 3s already.
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Post by pharmadave on Aug 30, 2019 23:43:04 GMT 11
Just got an update from Tesla. Car will be ready for pick up 23rd September. Looking forward to it. It'll be during school holidays so I'll be able to bring the kids along.
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Post by Cachexian (Gordon) on Sept 2, 2019 21:48:30 GMT 11
I took my boys to the Tesla showroom on Sunday. It probably took them all of about 15 seconds for them to find the "fart mode" and play with that then to jump into the old Atari games. Amazing! It's like a magnetic attraction...kids and games and funny bodily functions. They liked the 3 although they did inform me that the model S has better games and cooler door handles.
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Post by pharmadave on Sept 23, 2019 21:51:42 GMT 11
Just picked up the Model 3 SR+ yesterday (Sunday). They are working 7 days a week up till the end of quarter to deliver as many cars are possible. The guy that did the tour of the car just went through the basics in terms of drive, reverse, park and set up the driving position, got us out the door and moved onto the next waiting customer. Total was about 10 minutes spent on teaching about the car. I feel like I already know about Teslas and the Model 3, even then I still felt rushed. After sanity returned once we got home, I spent a good hour going through the car with my dad and co-piloted on a short drive to teach him about re-gen braking. The Model 3 is a remarkable piece of engineering. Clinical execution of minimalism with amazing performance and technology integration. Here is a pic:
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Sept 24, 2019 7:59:01 GMT 11
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Post by Cachexian (Gordon) on Sept 24, 2019 7:59:01 GMT 11
Looks beautiful. I'm glad that I too have opted for white. Does you Dad love it? I'm interested to know if it feels faster than or similar to your S90.
I've been looking into PPF paint protection and ceramic coating and found a place nearby that does it. My friend has a 911 that must have had ceramic coating because the water and dirt just falls off it. Probably worth the investment to protect the paint, I'm thinking.
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Post by pharmadave on Sept 24, 2019 10:51:03 GMT 11
The Model 3 feels lighter, more agile, more precise than the Model S. Power and acceleration is somewhat similar on paper to my S90 with similar 0-100 times. The torque delivery is different. The Model S is more instant and brutal, the Model 3 has an extremely small delay before torque arrives, the delay is almost imperceptible but still there.
The P3D overcomes this by putting a small induction motor in the front axle to get that instant brutal torque.
The sheer weight difference between the 2 cars makes it a totally different driving experience.
I liken the Model S to a GT car, big, comfortable, somewhat powerful but handling is somewhat compromised.
The Model 3 is more of a canyon carver, lighter, quick, precise steering, good power to weight ratio, former suspension. I can see how the P3D can be a good track car.
With the paint film stuff, my parents aren’t big on spending money on that sort of stuff. Each to their own, it’s what you see value in.
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Post by rusdy on Sept 24, 2019 12:06:12 GMT 11
You really good in writing concise review. Please tell us a bit more if you have one! All those reviews and videos I've watched pretty much what you've said in much, much longer wordy wordy bla bla bla kind of way. Now, time to buy my Tesla model 3!!... aaah, dang it, already sold my soul twice to buy the Leaf... so...
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Sept 24, 2019 12:15:06 GMT 11
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Post by pharmadave on Sept 24, 2019 12:15:06 GMT 11
You really good in writing concise review. Please tell us a bit more if you have one! All those reviews and videos I've watched pretty much what you've said in much, much longer wordy wordy bla bla bla kind of way. Now, time to buy my Tesla model 3!!... aaah, dang it, already sold my soul twice to buy the Leaf... so... Thanks! Sometimes motoring journalists have to pad out their pieces to make a word count or to stroke their own egos. Me on the other hand, no such thing. Paint and panels gaps on the one we picked up was fine, we've never really checked these things with previous car purchases, not about to check now. Just going to drive it and enjoy it. Something that my dad said after 1 day of driving is 'It's easier to drive than an automatic!'
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Sept 24, 2019 21:48:14 GMT 11
Post by caroline on Sept 24, 2019 21:48:14 GMT 11
The Model 3 is a remarkable piece of engineering. Clinical execution of minimalism with amazing performance and technology integration. Good description! I pick up my model 3 this Friday - I expect I will fall asleep in it Friday night (in the garage) so I hope it's comfortable
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