Well as I understand it, the worst that can happen in a proper house circuit is that the fuse breaker trips and has to be reset, it is there for that exact reason.
We probably all have houses with circuits with unknown loads on them, it is just that this particular device is close to the limit on its own that is causing the concern....I d say plug it in and see what happens, if the fuse trips try another circuit or turn some stuff off.
That's fine during the day, but when I wanted to use my jug and my toaster it was pitch black outside and I didn't want to have to risk having to fumble around in the dark trying to find my way into my metre board so I turned my charger off before I turned the jug and the toaster on ;D I have only recently moved into my present house and am not sufficiently familiar with my metre board to know whether there is a separate trip switch for light and power, at a glance it all looks a bit complicated (there is a very complicated diagram) and could all be on the one switch.
Post by bobherbert on May 18, 2013 17:54:49 GMT 11
Hello all,sorry to be so tardy with my reply to Phoebe's quertion on the Amphiban charger. I had no problem with the 15AMP plug.Perhaps my charger is a previous or later version. Being an avid walker and retired i have not run up anywhere near as many klicks as most of you but it is still such a pleasure to cruise my Leaf past all those FFBS. Ihave still not encountered another LEAF but NISSAN MAROOKA have sold about 10.
Mildren Nissan even made us sign a letter saying we opted not to install the Origin Chargepoint. I hope they won't try to use it as an excuse to void our warranty if any electrical problems arise. That would make no sense if the LEAF was made to use public 3rd party chargers.
We've been using the Jaycar adapter since we bought the car 4 months ago, even with an extension cord on two occassions with no problems. The only oddities were the car stopping at ~158km instad of charging to full on two occassions but that might not be related to the adapter. No breakers were tripped and no hooning the night before.
A sparky could provide more formal information, but I understand a standard 10A circuit in a house has a circuit breaker of about 16A and wiring rated to about 20A. It is perfectly understandable that they have included those margins for safety; but since everyone is adding a margin there is only 50% of the actual amperage capacity that can be used!
Apologies for resurrecting and old thread, but I am wondering if anyone out there is using the Jaycar 15A to 10A Mains Plug Conversion unit. I see several of the members here use the AMP Fibian RV-02, but some say they have trouble fitting the plug into the Leaf's charge port owing to the plug surround. Although I already have a 15amp dedicated circuit and outlet at my place for regular slow charging, I want to keep one of these units for emergencies where I would only need to find a normal 10amp power point if I was out and about and miscalculated remaining range to get home.
The Jaycar unit only costs $79.95 whilst the Amp-Fibian is listed at $269. The AMP-Fibian certainly looks much more rugged, and the blurb says it is weatherproof, but as both units have safety circuit breakers, is the AMP-Fibian worth the extra cost?
BTW, I am looking forward to picking up my Leaf tomorrow. The Nissan dealer from which I bought it is not a certified Leaf dealer, but they belong to a franchise that has another dealership in Melbourne that is, and the Leaf was trucked up from there. Therefore, my dealer does not have a fast charging station (yet). Does anyone out there know where there is a charging station anywhere between Benalla and Melbourne? I met a gentleman from Wangaratta last month at an AEVA EV show in Coburg, and he said there was a charging point in Seymour, but no amount of googling has led me to its location.
I charge at work with the Jaycar adapter without problems. Best to check after a few minutes that the cord isn't getting too hot at the powerpoint, I've seen it happen before at some outlets and I'm not sure why there's a difference. Might be a voltage thing.
Hi Feng. Thanks for your reply. Yes, the Chargepoint and Plugshare sites were the first ones I checked. It's depressing when you zoom out on the maps to see the great cluster of charge points in the Melbourne area, and then a big, fat blank until Canberra and then another nice big cluster in Sydney
The city folk have got it good!
Luckily, I don't plan to drive to Melbourne at all. I always catch the V-line on the rare occasions that I do need to go. However, the Nissan dealer up here is still working on how I will get the Leaf serviced in the future as they don't have a certified Leaf mechanic there. If I have to take the car to Melbourne for its scheduled services, I might have a problem if I can't charge up somewhere along the way.
Hi Jennie. I am in Maitland in the Hunter Valley and had to buy my LEAF from Mildren, Artarmon, in Sydney (151kms) as there was no closer certified dealer. I managed to drive it home with a little range to spare but when I went back for my first service, I wasn't going to make it. Fortunately our Forum Administrator, Jim Hare, offered me to charge up at his place to get the rest of the way. You will find, driving long distances like that, that your range in the different directions may be considerably different, due to where the hills are and whether a wind is blowing. Nissan have now authorised Kloster Nissan in Newcastle, a mere 38kms from me, as a LEAF dealer. I went there on Wednesday for my 2 Year service. I hope Nissan authorise a regional dealer within reach of you so you don't have the hassle of recharging on you way to Melbourne for every service.
Yesterday our 10A EVSE suffered a bit of a mishap.. snap, crackle, pop. One brown/black wire.
It appears that this EVSE (which was included when we bought the car second hand) may have originally been a 15A plug but at some stage, had a home made 10A plug put on it.
It had been working fine for us for 3 months, but before it fizzled, we had just used it at another house. Not sure if this was related.
Anyway, I found this 3+ year old thread, and also noticed that AmpFibian has increased their range of products since 2013: ampfibian.com.au/products/
The "Mini" has the cables built in which may eliminate the previously mentioned issue of of the surround on the 15A Nissan plug.
My first amphibian died around a year ago after 2 years of almost daily use at work. I now have the mini. Only down side is it is not at all weather or waterproof. Ok for me as its housed inside the meter box when I use it. So for the lower price and if you don't need any weather proofing the mini versions is great.
Not sure yet - only visible damage is the plug. Hopefully it's just a case of getting a sparky to put a 15A plug onto it!
I'd just chop the cord about 10-15cm back from the old plug (making sure the copper looks shiny and not discoloured or heat affected) and attach a new plug to it. The key is to make sure that the connections from EVSE wires to plug terminals are nice and fat, no pinch points, to ensure the current is well distributed and has a wide path to follow. When drawing 10+ amps, any thin connections or pinch points will get hot because the current will be concentrated through that point, and over time cause the type of failure you have seen.
Post by 4wardthinking on Aug 30, 2016 12:56:38 GMT 11
Yep, chop the cable back and put a Clipsal IP68 15a plug on where the damage has been taken back to. I use the socket part of the set to a 10a safety guard plug into the garage socket, it serves as an adapter, so I can charge in two sockets now, and moisture cannot get to the plug/socket interconnect. The "brick" only allows just under 10a to be drawn, so a good quality plug is worth spending money on. Mind you, if you do make a 1m adapter, make sure the cable can carry what it says on the label. If it gets warm under use, its border-line!.
Energy in the LEAF=it's weight, multiplied by the speed I need, squared!.