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Post by empowerrepower on Jan 4, 2018 9:32:03 GMT 11
We've just reached 60 000km, so took the Leaf to Nissan Moorooka to have the car checked over before the warranty (60K km/3 years) ran out. Other than being down 3 bars in less than 3 years, the only problem noted was that the brake master cylinder is weeping. They are ordering a replacement under warranty. All good so far, but this is what worried me - we were told that the replacement part cost $4000 for the part alone. For any other Nissan car, it would only cost about $600! The explanation was that the Leaf is a unique car, so all the parts cost more. $3400 more!!! I pointed out that 250 000 Leafs have been sold around the world, so the part shouldn't cost that kind of money. Although we won't be out of pocket for this warranty repair (hence dodging a bullet), I find it worrying that a simple part is so over-priced, as will this mean that any future repairs will come with grossly inflated parts as well? I don't even know whether I believe that Nissan will be wearing the cost of a $4000 part, it just seems like a possible porky.
Thoughts, anyone?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 4, 2018 12:01:10 GMT 11
10 amp Nissan evse with 15 amp plug cost $3410 in 2014 Not surprised. But that reason was to encourage owners to go with a wall box
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Post by Feng on Jan 4, 2018 13:22:55 GMT 11
I'm guessing it's this part? www.ebay.com.au/itm/192258595900 - it's more expensive than an ICE master cylinder but $4k sounds very much overpriced. Lucky you for getting it done under warranty. Call me cynical but I wonder if the dealer could be finding ways to make money off your car. Do you have your car back? Can you see the problem yourself if you looked around the engine bay?
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Post by empowerrepower on Jan 4, 2018 20:13:51 GMT 11
I'm guessing it's this part? www.ebay.com.au/itm/192258595900 - it's more expensive than an ICE master cylinder but $4k sounds very much overpriced. Lucky you for getting it done under warranty. Call me cynical but I wonder if the dealer could be finding ways to make money off your car. Do you have your car back? Can you see the problem yourself if you looked around the engine bay? I guess that part on US ebay is around $2300 once the freight and import charges are included, so quite an expensive part. I'm surprised at the cost. My advice is, for those coming up to 60K km/3years, is to get a service to id any problems before the warranty is out.
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Post by 4wardthinking on Jan 5, 2018 11:34:36 GMT 11
We've just reached 60 000km, so took the Leaf to Nissan Moorooka to have the car checked over before the warranty (60K km/3 years) ran out. Other than being down 3 bars in less than 3 years, the only problem noted was that the brake master cylinder is weeping. They are ordering a replacement under warranty. All good so far, but this is what worried me - we were told that the replacement part cost $4000 for the part alone. For any other Nissan car, it would only cost about $600! The explanation was that the Leaf is a unique car, so all the parts cost more. $3400 more!!! I pointed out that 250 000 Leafs have been sold around the world, so the part shouldn't cost that kind of money. Although we won't be out of pocket for this warranty repair (hence dodging a bullet), I find it worrying that a simple part is so over-priced, as will this mean that any future repairs will come with grossly inflated parts as well? I don't even know whether I believe that Nissan will be wearing the cost of a $4000 part, it just seems like a possible porky. Thoughts, anyone? I wonder if it's a common issue. First look under the hood, I spotted a damp looking area at the bottom-front, with similar on the material below it. It appears to be emanating from one of the pressure switch flange/seal. I tightened up what appears to be a little on the slack side. This was part of the switch itself, so power off for minimum of two minutes, or you risk twisting the connector on it, and can reconnect it without tension. Cleaned all the area down with a microfibre clot and water. It stopped any trace of seepage thereafter. If memory serves me correct, a thin section 14mm OE short spanner was the tool. I put it down to production time, as all suggested it had never been correctly torqued up. It's not the first vehicle with ABS I've seen with this kind of issue either, somehow the alu washer misses being fitted correctly. Bear in mind it's a seeping type of leak, and the brake fluid can cover a large area very thinly.
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Post by stewartm on Jan 5, 2018 13:32:04 GMT 11
Hi Liz, you can pay Nissan for an extended warranty within the period, may be cheap insurance hey.
Stew
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Post by 4wardthinking on Jan 6, 2018 7:31:46 GMT 11
Hi Liz, you can pay Nissan for an extended warranty within the period, may be cheap insurance hey. Stew Good point. We had the roadside on ours, at $138 p/a. Another good investment. It covered the out of power possibility too. I got the reminder recently.
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Post by lesmando24 on Jan 8, 2018 9:01:58 GMT 11
I think this unit costs more than an ICE car as it incorporates the Vacuum Assist Servo (with electro mechanical unit), Master Cylinder and ABS unit.
Les
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Post by duncan on May 6, 2018 10:57:42 GMT 11
I think this unit costs more than an ICE car as it incorporates the Vacuum Assist Servo (with electro mechanical unit), Master Cylinder and ABS unit. Les Well according to the service manual it's not a "brake master cylinder" anymore, it's now a "electrically driven intelligent brake system" It is a very complex part including which runs: VDC function, TCS function, ABS function, EBD function, brake limited slip differential (BLSD) function and brake assist function it even has a small battery backup which is meant to help in case of 12v It is a very complex unit, and like so many things these days they just sell as a single unit rather than having replacement parts. This is the schematic from the workshop manual Bascially, the days of a rod from the pedal putting pressure into the brake system are gone. This is more "fly by wire", like the accelerator, where it senses the pressure you are putting on the pedal and then decides in the computer how much pressure to push to each cylinder (and potentially how much work the traction motor should do as regen braking). It also monitors steering angle, g forces etc for the VDC function BTW don't buy the US part unless you are certain it is a match (we can check using FAST if necessary) because they are Left hand drive there. There may be differences in fittings for example brake hose outlets.
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